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SO it is worth the discussion now? You just cant stfu can you. It's not worth the discussion yet you spout off post after post.

If the "government people" don't want to be denigrated then they shouldn't lie. They should do a better job. If it makes one a jackass to call out liars, misinformation disseminators, and shitty job performance then I'll gladly be in that camp.

You will notice i have not said there is a correlation. I have said it should be researched and debated. Of course you are a communist so you don't like debate. Now sit down, because this "isn't worth the discussion to you".

(Now is when you make a multi paragraph post in a discussion that isn't worth it to you. go ahead)

I'll make a simple post. You have proven time and again you aren't very smart and truly a waste of time to talk with. You called me a Communist and I'm not close to communist so.... I also noticed you didn't reply with what profession you work in that gives you Medical Expertise. Care to share?
 
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I'll make a simple post. You have proven time and again you aren't very smart and truly a waste of time to talk with. You called me a Communist and I'm not close to communist so.... I also noticed you didn't reply with what profession you work in that gives you Medical Expertise. Care to share?

Do i need to be in a certain profession to see athletes collapsing on the field? Do i need to be in a profession to listen to doctors who say there are heart related side effects from the vaccine? Do i need to be in a certain profession to call for debate and research?

You are a teacher. No offense, i respect teachers, but you are no more qualified than i am. I know plenty of doctors too.

Still not worth discussing yet here you are discussing again. Maybe it is worth discussing after all?
 
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Once, pre vaccination Nov 2020. Of course it's entirely possible I've had it multiple times since then but was asymptomatic or had extremely mild symptoms. You know, because of the vaccine. Also, have you ever been tested other than Dec 21? I find it hilarious when people say they never got it, but they never actually get tested. You know, the dumbass who says "it's just allergies". Guess what, it's not always just allergies.
I need to be sick for me to consider myself sick. Asymptomatic isn’t being sick lol. I don’t care if I have covid 100 times a year if it’s asymptomatic.

But I rarely get sick. I make personal fitness and nutrition a daily part of my life. I did get covid from my multiple boosted employee though. As a food pyramid denier I have a 30inch waist.
 
Do i need to be in a certain profession to see athletes collapsing on the field? Do i need to be in a profession to listen to doctors who say there are heart related side effects from the vaccine? Do i need to be in a certain profession to call for debate and research?

You are a teacher. No offense, i respect teachers, but you are no more qualified than i am. I know plenty of doctors too.

Still not worth discussing yet here you are discussing again. Maybe it is worth discussing after all?

I'm not a teacher, My wife is a teacher. I have over 35 years in professional Management, the last 8 in Health Care.

If you think Hamlin collapsing had something to do with Covid you are patently stupid and ignorant. That's on you and why I wondered about your career. I can only assume since you are demonstrating ignorance that you don't have a Healthcare background.

It's not worth discussing but maybe, just maybe, I can point out to you that you are coming across as a complete buffoon. I don't know you so it doesn't embarrass me, but for the sake of your family and friends, I pray you aren't acting like this in public.
 
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"You are not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations" - Joe Biden

"Suppose that we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. Supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way."

"Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"

"It sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That's pretty powerful."

"I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there's any way you can apply light and heat to cure. You know? If you could,"

"And maybe you can, maybe you can't. Again, I say maybe you can, maybe you can't. I'm not a doctor."

- Donald Trump

 
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That makes the first person I’ve heard of. I only have 2 employees that are vaccinated, they are also my only 2 employees to get covid twice. One is done with boosters, others wife will make him stay boosted until he is in the ground. I look forward to seeing when he gets covid again.
I think it has more to do with who is getting tested as opposed to people absolutely not getting it more than once. I think there will be many people that have had it multiple times, and did not know or did not care.
 
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I'm not a teacher, My wife is a teacher. I have over 35 years in professional Management, the last 8 in Health Care.

If you think Hamlin collapsing had something to do with Covid you are patently stupid and ignorant. That's on you and why I wondered about your career. I can only assume since you are demonstrating ignorance that you don't have a Healthcare background.

It's not worth discussing but maybe, just maybe, I can point out to you that you are coming across as a complete buffoon. I don't know you so it doesn't embarrass me, but for the sake of your family and friends, I pray you aren't acting like this in public.
Congrats on your career. Since you are not a doctor it is totally meaningless. You are a complete buffoon thinking that your non doctor opinion means that we shouldn't debate the topic. No one can 100% rule out the vax had nothing to do with Hamlin's incident. If you say that you don't understand math and statistics. Have a good day.
 
Congrats on your career. Since you are not a doctor it is totally meaningless. You are a complete buffoon thinking that your non doctor opinion means that we shouldn't debate the topic. No one can 100% rule out the vax had nothing to do with Hamlin's incident. If you say that you don't understand math and statistics. Have a good day.

You truly don't understand how ridiculous that statement you just made is? So "nobody can 100% rule out the vax has nothing to do with Hamlin's incident"? That's like me saying," well Hamlin collapsed on the field in Kansas City, Kansas City must be toxic, or his jersey must have poisoned him,or his helmet was too tight"

How about they announced what the cause was and it wasn't vaccines you idiot.

The fact that I work on healthcare certainly means my experience and contacts are better and should be more relevant and taken more seriously than someone who doesn't. I noticed you again avoided saying what your profession is... Embarrassed?
 
"Suppose that we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. Supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way."

"Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"

"It sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That's pretty powerful."

"I would like you to speak to the medical doctors to see if there's any way you can apply light and heat to cure. You know? If you could,"

"And maybe you can, maybe you can't. Again, I say maybe you can, maybe you can't. I'm not a doctor."

- Donald Trump


 

I just love intentionally misconstrued videos. Do you guys really not understand this, or is it just to try and make a point?

I don't know why I try, but they were referring to the original strain which the vaccines were developed for. Vaccines were proven to be very effective against both infection and severity for them.

The later strains lead to less efficacy in avoiding infection,but still had benefits in reducing severity.
 
You truly don't understand how ridiculous that statement you just made is? So "nobody can 100% rule out the vax has nothing to do with Hamlin's incident"? That's like me saying," well Hamlin collapsed on the field in Kansas City, Kansas City must be toxic, or his jersey must have poisoned him,or his helmet was too tight"

How about they announced what the cause was and it wasn't vaccines you idiot.

The fact that I work on healthcare certainly means my experience and contacts are better and should be more relevant and taken more seriously than someone who doesn't. I noticed you again avoided saying what your profession is... Embarrassed?

Do you know what 100% means? Thats absolutely ridiculous. You don't understand statistics. Stick to managing.

I'm a statistician if you somehow think thats relevant.
 
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Do you know what 100% means? Thats absolutely ridiculous. You don't understand statistics. Stick to managing.

I'm a statistician if you somehow think thats relevant.

Still employed? Cause you kinda suck at logic. What company so I can make sure we don't use yours?
 
I need to be sick for me to consider myself sick. Asymptomatic isn’t being sick lol. I don’t care if I have covid 100 times a year if it’s asymptomatic.

But I rarely get sick. I make personal fitness and nutrition a daily part of my life. I did get covid from my multiple boosted employee though. As a food pyramid denier I have a 30inch waist.
You do understand that asymptomatic doesn't mean you will not have the post recovery effects, such as blood clots, stroke, heart attack, or even have some long Covid symptoms. Here is a fantastic article on it.

This in particular is extremely revealing

"People who got COVID-19 and were asymptomatic, or got COVID-19 that was so mild that they were able to nurse it at home, without going to the doctor still developed an increased risk of heart problems a year out."

 
You do understand that asymptomatic doesn't mean you will not have the post recovery effects, such as blood clots, stroke, heart attack, or even have some long Covid symptoms. Here is a fantastic article on it.

This in particular is extremely revealing

"People who got COVID-19 and were asymptomatic, or got COVID-19 that was so mild that they were able to nurse it at home, without going to the doctor still developed an increased risk of heart problems a year out."

aka "The Boogeyman". It's gonna get ya. Some people will believe anything
 
You do understand that asymptomatic doesn't mean you will not have the post recovery effects, such as blood clots, stroke, heart attack, or even have some long Covid symptoms. Here is a fantastic article on it.

This in particular is extremely revealing

"People who got COVID-19 and were asymptomatic, or got COVID-19 that was so mild that they were able to nurse it at home, without going to the doctor still developed an increased risk of heart problems a year out."

As someone that is not vaccinated, recovered from covid, and does intense cardio workouts I have zero fear of having a heart attack. Can’t say the same if I had taken the clot shot.
 
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aka "The Boogeyman". It's gonna get ya. Some people will believe anything
Literally every major study shows this. As a "statistician" you should understand the relevance that every single study shows it. Not cherry picked stats. By the way, I couldn't care less if you got the shot. Just vaccinate your damn kids for for everything but Covid if you like.
 
As someone that is not vaccinated, recovered from covid, and does intense cardio workouts I have zero fear of having a heart attack. Can’t say the same if I had taken the clot shot.
You're literally an idiot and I don't care if you got the shot or not. Zero fear? Lmao. People in elite shape die of heart attacks every single day vaccinated or not.
 
As someone that is not vaccinated, recovered from covid, and does intense cardio workouts I have zero fear of having a heart attack. Can’t say the same if I had taken the clot shot.
By the way, my point is simple. If during one of your intense cardio workouts, you feel off for whatever reason, it would be best to have a least a little concern and not kill yourself.
 
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How could it not become a debate? It's not normal for athletes in prime condition to drop of heart attacks. We should be asking questions. If it leads to the vax fine, and if it leads to something else that is fine also. But it should be discussed.
Shouldn't we wait to hear a report on the information provided by his medical team first, if they even decide to publicly comment on it?
 
Shouldn't we wait to hear a report on the information provided by his medical team first, if they even decide to publicly comment on it?
I don’t see any harm in discussion. We won’t get to the truth without research and debate. That’s what science is right?
 


But don't let actual facts get in your way. Remind us again about your brilliant deduction that Damar Hamlin had a heart issue because of Covid Vaccines.
 
How many times have you had covid and are you vaccinated?

I’m not vaccinated, I had covid December 21, never been sick since then with any bug.

And cdc doesn’t record vaccination status anymore for people getting covid… which is strange since it would be an easy way to prove the vaccine is prevent covid.
I caught Covid multiple times before the vaccination. Hell, I even got Bell’s palsy before getting the shot too.
 

But don't let actual facts get in your way. Remind us again about your brilliant deduction that Damar Hamlin had a heart issue because of Covid Vaccines.
If Damar had a heart attack from commotio cordis then there would be a hell of a lot of football players having heart attacks for years during the games. That hit was not unusual or very hard in football terms. I bet they are putting a lot of these guys on heavy blood thinners going forward.
 
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If Damar had a heart attack from commotio cordis then there would be a hell of a lot of football players having heart attacks for years during the games. That hit was not unusual or very hard in football terms. I bet they are putting a lot of these guys on heavy blood thinners going forward.
How do you even know he had the vaccine?
 
No, it was conjectured by the tin foil hat wearing “doctors”. The “doctor” that came out and said he administered the vaccine was BS.
Well I am not sure either way, but I would guess there is a very decent chance that he received at least one dose of the vaccine and maybe more due to the NFL policy that was being pushed on the players and everyone else. We agree that we do not know and Hamlin is not saying either way. I still do not see any way that the commotio cordis diagnosis can be correct unless it was literally a once in a million deal.
 
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I don’t see any harm in discussion. We won’t get to the truth without research and debate. That’s what science is right?
I believe in discussion and respect people having differences of opinion. Certainly a vaccine rolled out to millions and millions of people in a short time frame could have some negative side effects for some, just like any other vaccine or medication does.

In regards to this thread, I hope Bronny James has a successful recovery and that they are able to determine the cause and provide treatment for him as needed for him to have a long healthy normal life. And hopefully he will be able to continue pursuing his dream of playing college and pro basketball.
 

But don't let actual facts get in your way. Remind us again about your brilliant deduction that Damar Hamlin had a heart issue because of Covid Vaccines.
I never deduced that at all. Sorry you have trouble with reading comprehension and logic. I said that you can't say with certainty that the vaccine had nothing to do with it. And i stand by that. Doctors can say what most likely caused it, but we will never know with 100% certainty.
 
I never deduced that at all. Sorry you have trouble with reading comprehension and logic. I said that you can't say with certainty that the vaccine had nothing to do with it. And i stand by that. Doctors can say what most likely caused it, but we will never know with 100% certainty.

We will never know anything with 100% certainty. That's really what you are hanging your hat on? Dude, that's just sad.

Also, still ashamed of saying what profession you work in?
 
I literally don't give a single solitary **** what you think. I unfortunately know a ton about this, the data in particular and am a co-author on a published paper on COVID-19 in The Journal of Humanistic Psychology. As far as SC Covid testing, hospital, and other data goes, you'll not find many who are more educated on the subject than me. How many medical journals are you published in? By the way, did I mention I only have a high school education? I'm guessing you'll see that as a way to discredited me, but when people wanted data information, including professors and researchers at both Clemson and UofSC, they called or messaged me.
Don't pay attention to that guy. He's projecting because he has no clue that he's the one full of it.
 
Does anyone deny that these cardiac and blood clot situations are much more common now? You know the govt has skin in the game by suppressing the data(both parties-not a political debate). But I can tell you actual doctors say there is a measurable uptic in these cases, and insurance claims processors have the data also and have been “advised” that info is reported to a very select few gov’t approved agencies for review and audit.
 
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Does anyone deny that these cardiac and blood clot situations are much more common now? You know the govt has skin in the game by suppressing the data(both parties-not a political debate). But I can tell you actual doctors say there is a measurable uptic in these cases, and insurance claims processors have the data also and have been “advised” that info is reported to a very select few gov’t approved agencies for review and audit.
I'm pretty sure I have made it clear and many Dr's have that Covid is far more likely the cause than any vaccine. The infection attacks the venous and arterial system, including post recovery. It causes massive metabolic issues in many who have recovered and can continue to cause havoc for years the data has shown. It causes massive inflammation in the body, and again it can last for a long time post recovery. With this being a novel virus, it hit the majority of the population in less than 18 months, which leads to a much larger percentage of people with these issues than a typical illness. Hell, it was so transmissible it nearly wiped out the flu for a whole year. This was all over the world, not just in the US. And yes, we were still testing for it. The data is available as it always has been on state and government public health sites.

Plus, you can get it, not know you have it, and still have issues. You can get it multiple times a year due to how many mutations were occuring because of the rapid spread, especially if you were not vaccinated and in some cases even if you were. I know many doctors who treated patients who had it multiple times, even with PPE on. It's like a really good offense in the NFL, you can slow them down but it's almost impossible to stop.

All of this data is out there. The cardiovascular issues post recovery are probably the worst. Many have arrhythmias they never had before being infected. The crazy thing is this isn't unique to Covid. Many viruses and even bacterial infections due very similar things.

My father died of an extremely rare clotting disorder he had no idea he had called antiphospholipid syndrome or APS. He had the catastrophic version where you have clots in four or more different organs at the same time and onset is extremely rapid. His clotting event was likely triggered by an infection post recovery. It's one of the huge reasons I learned so much about Covid and became a community advocate, especially in regard to transparency of the testing, hospital, and death data. In the beginning, we were getting none of that and I had to track it myself and demand that SCDHEC get their shit together. Because hell, if I could do it, they sure as hell could.

With all of that being said, I'm sure the vaccine has caused some of the events, as it was always a known risk. However, all of the data points to it being much safer than getting Covid, which means the benefits outweighed the risk. One thing this has made me understand is there are so many people who simply don't understand how science works and surely didn't pay enough attention in science class. Science is about asking questions though, so I get it. However, the data set is pretty clear and will only get clearer the further we are out from it. Maybe it will change, but I wouldn't bet on it. The way mRNA vaccines work, long term effects are just highly unlikely.
 
I'm pretty sure I have made it clear and many Dr's have that Covid is far more likely the cause than any vaccine. The infection attacks the venous and arterial system, including post recovery. It causes massive metabolic issues in many who have recovered and can continue to cause havoc for years the data has shown. It causes massive inflammation in the body, and again it can last for a long time post recovery. With this being a novel virus, it hit the majority of the population in less than 18 months, which leads to a much larger percentage of people with these issues than a typical illness. Hell, it was so transmissible it nearly wiped out the flu for a whole year. This was all over the world, not just in the US. And yes, we were still testing for it. The data is available as it always has been on state and government public health sites.

Plus, you can get it, not know you have it, and still have issues. You can get it multiple times a year due to how many mutations were occuring because of the rapid spread, especially if you were not vaccinated and in some cases even if you were. I know many doctors who treated patients who had it multiple times, even with PPE on. It's like a really good offense in the NFL, you can slow them down but it's almost impossible to stop.

All of this data is out there. The cardiovascular issues post recovery are probably the worst. Many have arrhythmias they never had before being infected. The crazy thing is this isn't unique to Covid. Many viruses and even bacterial infections due very similar things.

My father died of an extremely rare clotting disorder he had no idea he had called antiphospholipid syndrome or APS. He had the catastrophic version where you have clots in four or more different organs at the same time and onset is extremely rapid. His clotting event was likely triggered by an infection post recovery. It's one of the huge reasons I learned so much about Covid and became a community advocate, especially in regard to transparency of the testing, hospital, and death data. In the beginning, we were getting none of that and I had to track it myself and demand that SCDHEC get their shit together. Because hell, if I could do it, they sure as hell could.

With all of that being said, I'm sure the vaccine has caused some of the events, as it was always a known risk. However, all of the data points to it being much safer than getting Covid, which means the benefits outweighed the risk. One thing this has made me understand is there are so many people who simply don't understand how science works and surely didn't pay enough attention in science class. Science is about asking questions though, so I get it. However, the data set is pretty clear and will only get clearer the further we are out from it. Maybe it will change, but I wouldn't bet on it. The way mRNA vaccines work, long term effects are just highly unlikely.

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