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National Divorce

Would you vote for a National Divorce if presented the opportunity?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 30.8%
  • No

    Votes: 36 69.2%

  • Total voters
    52
  • Poll closed .
Yep. I think if you had asked this question pre-Russian collusion the poll response favoring National divorce would be less than 5%. Now, in a mere 2-3 years, we have roughly 30% supporting divorce. Divorce is usually a slow process, my guess is it takes another 10-20 years before it’s finalized. Unless the wrongs committed by the democrats in the 2020 election are righted I do not see anyway for reconciliation.
Since there are no wrongs to correct, I say people like you, who are disconnected from reality, need to move away from the rest of us. Feel free to invade MissiBama at first light - we won't miss you.
 
Since there are no wrongs to correct, I say people like you, who are disconnected from reality, need to move away from the rest of us. Feel free to invade MissiBama at first light - we won't miss you.

Mmmm hmmmm.

“It’s not you, it’s me.”
 
A humiliating genital inspection disguised as a physical to throw red meat to their angry, irrational base.

I feel like we had to show birth certificates when I played sports as a kid. Not for gender obviously because that wasn’t a thing, but for age. We all pretty much agree here that biological boys shouldn’t play girls sports, so wouldn’t that solve the issue without humiliation?
 
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I feel like we had to show birth certificates when I played sports as a kid. Not for gender obviously because that wasn’t a thing, but for age. We all pretty much agree here that biological boys shouldn’t play girls sports, so wouldn’t that solve the issue without humiliation?
My thoughts exactly....why is a birth certificate not good enough? 🤷‍♂️
 
I feel like we had to show birth certificates when I played sports as a kid. Not for gender obviously because that wasn’t a thing, but for age. We all pretty much agree here that biological boys shouldn’t play girls sports, so wouldn’t that solve the issue without humiliation?
We had to show a birth certificate for my son's baseball tournaments up until two years ago. He's 18 now for a reference point. And yes, it was strictly for age reasons as some kids look like they're 25 in a 14U tournament.

The head coach would keep a copy on file for the whole season in case any discrepancies ever arose.
 
Full text from General Flynn. Well said and true! Its not over by a long shot!

General Mike Flynn

@GenFlynn


America is pissed. Trump is pissed. I’m pissed. And all rightly so after the release of the Durham report. How do we get our country back and our duly elected POTUS? The “missteps” Durham said have been fixed are still in place (don’t kid yourself). The FBI needs to be completely shut down and it must happen in any new administration that enters the WH. Ideas about reform are fine but not until a complete shut down occurs. All party’s political candidates running for POTUS must have the complete restoration of faith in the federal government as their top priority. No more games. And people that committed crimes such as treason and/or sedition against the American people must be held accountable (all of them). There will be no statute of limitations and no rocks to hide under. My lawsuit against the DOJ and the EOP (and others) aside, if the DOJ doesn’t go after those who perpetrated these crimes (including the current POTUS), we no longer have a system of Justice that is responsive to the needs of the American people. The Rule of Law that I fought for will be dead. We either have a fair, unbiased and functioning justice system or we live under the yoke of tyranny ruled by a small group of oligarch elites who want to dictate how we will live as a nation. Wake up America!
 

WAYNE ROOT: “The Great American Divorce” is Not Just Happening, It’s Growing Bigger By the Minute.​

By Assistant Editor Jul. 27, 2023 2:35 pm
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By Wayne Allyn Root
We have this never-ending debate in America and especially in Washington DC about what works- left or right, liberalism or conservatism, capitalism or socialism.
Well, there’s no need to debate anymore. The answer is in. We won!

Yes, the debate is over. All the stats are in from a hundred directions. “The Great American Divorce” I’ve predicted for almost 20 years is happening. And the more Democrats talk, the more Americans choose to run for their lives.
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Almost everyone is leaving with daddy! Because mommy is a vicious, overbearing, liberal, Democrat control freak.
Americans are voting with their feet. And the winner is…RED STATE AMERICA. Americans are moving by the millions away from high-tax, high-regulation blue states. And moving to low-tax, light-regulation red states. Or in some cases, like my state of Nevada, although it’s a purple state, they’re moving here because the taxes are zero.
Check the stats. There is no way to “massage” the numbers. The red states, low-tax states, and zero-tax states are winning. High-tax blue states are losing all their citizens. Not just any citizens. The ones with income, assets, and businesses. In other words, this divorce is all about money.
And anyone with money wants to run away from blue states and liberal Democrat policies.
The big winners in this “Great National Divorce” are red states like Texas, Florida, North and South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Utah and Arizona…as well as zero tax Nevada.
The big losers are California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and every other blue state. If liberalism works so great, why do their citizens want out? Because if liberal ideas and policies worked, they would stay, right? Or they’d move from one blue state to another.
But no one is leaving New York for blue state New Jersey. No one is leaving New York for blue state California. No one is leaving anywhere for Chicago. Why?
Because liberal Democrat ideas are a failure. Americans (at least the smarter ones) want personal and economic freedom. They want lower taxes. They want less government regulation. They want no masks…no lockdowns…no vaccine mandates. No one wants to live in a Nanny State.
The only residents California or New York gains are illegal aliens, homeless people, drug addicts and lazy welfare bums looking for a bigger government check.
Take Las Vegas, Nevada, my adopted hometown for 21 years now. I ran away from California in 2002. It was the best decision of my life. I’ve saved at least a million dollars in taxes since then. Can you imagine how much of a better life a million dollars can buy? It pays for a nicer home, nicer cars, better lifestyle, more vacations, and a few college educations thrown in. Thank God for zero tax Nevada.
But it’s much more than income tax. Here in Nevada we have zero corporate tax, zero capital gains tax, zero inheritance tax, and most importantly, among the lowest property taxes in America.
We also have a brand new Republican Governor (Joe Lombardo). Which means none of this will change for at least another four years, and quite possibly the next eight years.
But it’s much more than that. It’s about freedom. One of the first acts by our new Republican Governor was declaring that no child in the state of Nevada will be forced to take the Covid vaccine to attend school. Bravo!
But here’s the really big advantage of living in Nevada. No state income taxes mean no state IRS tax agency. Meaning in 21 years of living here, not one person from the state government has ever contacted me. No calls, no emails, no mail. I’ve never heard from a single government employee ever, about anything.
That’s called FREEDOM.
Yes, Nevada had mask mandates under our old Democrat tyrant Governor. But they were rarely enforced. For all intents and purposes, I never wore masks. Maybe for 5 minutes a month- just for seconds, to walk in a store or restaurant. Then I immediately took it off. No one ever said one word to me. No person, no store owner, no security guard, no cop.
People are allowed to live and let live here. We can make personal decisions. We have a brain. We have free will. And even when Nevada’s Democrats pass a dumb law, no one enforces it. This isn’t a Nanny State like California or New York.
The result? The whole California is moving here (or at least it feels like it). Count license plates in parking lots, or in driveways, or at casinos. Every other plate says California.
But it’s not just people moving to Nevada, and more specifically Las Vegas. Even California’s sports teams are moving here. First the Oakland Raiders abandoned California for Las Vegas. Now the Oakland A’s major league baseball team is moving to Las Vegas. What’s next? Maybe the Oakland City Hall will relocate here!
Every day a new high-profile restaurant, retailer, or entertainment complex announces they’re opening their flagship location here. These are major businesses spending $20 to $50 million dollars each to open in Vegas.
And why here? Not just because the taxes are zero. Because any business can get zoning and other construction approvals quickly. In blue states it takes years and millions of dollars. Here it’s fast and inexpensive.
Everyone has chosen. The winner is red states, low taxes, low regulation, smaller government, more freedom, and no masks or vaccines. Liberal Democrat ideas and policies have failed. No one wants them.
“The Great American Divorce” is not only happening- the more Democrats talk, the bigger it grows.
Wayne Allyn Root is known as “the Conservative Warrior.” Watch Wayne’s TV shows- “America’s Top Ten Countdown” on Real America’s Voice TV Network on Saturdays at Noon ET…and Wayne’s daily TV show on Lindell TV 2 at 7 pm ET at FrankSpeech.com. He is also host of the nationally-syndicated “Wayne Allyn Root: Raw & Unfiltered” on USA Audio Network, daily at 6 pm ET. Wayne’s latest book is a #1 bestseller, “The Great Patriot BUY-cott Book.” You can order here: Amazon product ASIN 099173372X
 
Full text from General Flynn. Well said and true! Its not over by a long shot!

General Mike Flynn
@GenFlynn


America is pissed. Trump is pissed. I’m pissed. And all rightly so after the release of the Durham report. How do we get our country back and our duly elected POTUS? The “missteps” Durham said have been fixed are still in place (don’t kid yourself). The FBI needs to be completely shut down and it must happen in any new administration that enters the WH. Ideas about reform are fine but not until a complete shut down occurs. All party’s political candidates running for POTUS must have the complete restoration of faith in the federal government as their top priority. No more games. And people that committed crimes such as treason and/or sedition against the American people must be held accountable (all of them). There will be no statute of limitations and no rocks to hide under. My lawsuit against the DOJ and the EOP (and others) aside, if the DOJ doesn’t go after those who perpetrated these crimes (including the current POTUS), we no longer have a system of Justice that is responsive to the needs of the American people. The Rule of Law that I fought for will be dead. We either have a fair, unbiased and functioning justice system or we live under the yoke of tyranny ruled by a small group of oligarch elites who want to dictate how we will live as a nation. Wake up America!
What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to embrace a fired traitor. Who, btw, was fired by your lord and savior Donald Trump?

You are not smart.
 
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Durham Report - They lied. They cheated. The stole.

We need a National Divorce. I don't see how this can be repaired.

So let me get this straight General Flynn... You believe the Durham report where it says all the things that went wrong, but you DON'T believe him when he says they are fixed? Either Durham is on the level or not...

But we should probably forgive Flynn, after all the FBI bullied him into a plea deal. And he was so scared of them, he accepted it.
 
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So let me get this straight General Flynn... You believe the Durham report where it says all the things that went wrong, but you DON'T believe him when he says they are fixed? Either Durham is on the level or not...

But we should probably forgive Flynn, after all the FBI bullied him into a plea deal. And he was so scared of them, he accepted it.

It's just not worth the effort. These guys truly don't have the ability to realize that they were wrong. He like @TigerGrowls will never admit they were wrong, or Trump lost. They either don't have the intellectual ability, or they have been so vocal about "The Steal" that they can't bring themselves to back off now for fear of looking dumb.
 
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So let me get this straight General Flynn... You believe the Durham report where it says all the things that went wrong, but you DON'T believe him when he says they are fixed? Either Durham is on the level or not...

But we should probably forgive Flynn, after all the FBI bullied him into a plea deal. And he was so scared of them, he accepted it.
I don't think Durham says everything is fixed.

Part of the problem is that Washington DC is 90% democrat and they will protect their own. Same reason Trump will never get a fair trial in DC.

Russia Gate was much worse than Watergate and no one has been held accountable. We the people are not in charge right now and we need to reclaim OUR country. Russiagate should never be allowed to happen. It's your team so I understand you don't care, but that is a dangerous precedent and one which will destroy our country.

I would absolutely vote in favor of a national divorce if this is the way we are supposed to continue.
 
I don't think Durham says everything is fixed.

Part of the problem is that Washington DC is 90% democrat and they will protect their own. Same reason Trump will never get a fair trial in DC.

Russia Gate was much worse than Watergate and no one has been held accountable. We the people are not in charge right now and we need to reclaim OUR country. Russiagate should never be allowed to happen. It's your team so I understand you don't care, but that is a dangerous precedent and one which will destroy our country.

I would absolutely vote in favor of a national divorce if this is the way we are supposed to continue.
RussiaGate was a REPUBLICAN investigation which they had ample reason for.
 
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I was driving home yesterday from Pickens and saw a broken down Trailer, door off it's hinges,broken down washing machine in the yard, with a giant flag that said ,"Thank You Trump".

I couldn't help but wonder if it was one of our resident Trumpers "home". Also, what in the hell was that guy thankful for?
 
It's just not worth the effort. These guys truly don't have the ability to realize that they were wrong. He like @TigerGrowls will never admit they were wrong, or Trump lost. They either don't have the intellectual ability, or they have been so vocal about "The Steal" that they can't bring themselves to back off now for fear of looking dumb.
You are a grade A narcissist.
 
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I don't think Durham says everything is fixed.

Part of the problem is that Washington DC is 90% democrat and they will protect their own. Same reason Trump will never get a fair trial in DC.

Russia Gate was much worse than Watergate and no one has been held accountable. We the people are not in charge right now and we need to reclaim OUR country. Russiagate should never be allowed to happen. It's your team so I understand you don't care, but that is a dangerous precedent and one which will destroy our country.

I would absolutely vote in favor of a national divorce if this is the way we are supposed to continue.
I'm just quoting Flynn here... That's the point I'm making in fact... Flynn uses Durham's report to "prove" that people did the wrong thing. Then doesn't believe the other part of the report... To quote Flynn:

The “missteps” Durham said have been fixed are still in place (don’t kid yourself).

So FLYNN says Durham said they were fixed and Flynn doesn't doesn't believe Durham. But Durham said people did bad things and Flynn buys into all of that part of the report.
 
I'm just quoting Flynn here... That's the point I'm making in fact... Flynn uses Durham's report to "prove" that people did the wrong thing. Then doesn't believe the other part of the report... To quote Flynn:

The “missteps” Durham said have been fixed are still in place (don’t kid yourself).

So FLYNN says Durham said they were fixed and Flynn doesn't doesn't believe Durham. But Durham said people did bad things and Flynn buys into all of that part of the report.

Flynn is probably one of the most wronged people in the history of the country. He is entitled to his opinion and yes it’s possible to only believe a part of the report. The government lies so much they have zero credibility left. That’s what happens when you attempt a coup on the presidency from within.
 
Flynn is probably one of the most wronged people in the history of the country. He is entitled to his opinion and yes it’s possible to only believe a part of the report. The government lies so much they have zero credibility left. That’s what happens when you attempt a coup on the presidency from within.
Whatever man. If you think the government lies all the time and has zero credibility, how do you believe PART of what they say? Oddly enough, the part that favors what you believe. Flynn lied, then pled guilty to lying and had to get a pardon for it from the guy he lied for. But you believe him? Right.
 
Whatever man. If you think the government lies all the time and has zero credibility, how do you believe PART of what they say? Oddly enough, the part that favors what you believe. Flynn lied, then pled guilty to lying and had to get a pardon for it from the guy he lied for. But you believe him? Right.

Also, the guy who fired him was the same guy who pardoned him. They never want to mention that Trump had no issue firing him.
 
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Whatever man. If you think the government lies all the time and has zero credibility, how do you believe PART of what they say? Oddly enough, the part that favors what you believe. Flynn lied, then pled guilty to lying and had to get a pardon for it from the guy he lied for. But you believe him? Right.

Pretty easy. You don't believe the parts that are proven, with facts, to be lies. You do believe the parts that are proven, with facts, to be the truth. All it requires is a little reading comprehension, logic, and critical thinking. If you lack those skills it will be very difficult for you. For the rest of us we can do this very easily.
 
Pretty easy. You don't believe the parts that are proven, with facts, to be lies. You do believe the parts that are proven, with facts, to be the truth. All it requires is a little reading comprehension, logic, and critical thinking. If you lack those skills it will be very difficult for you. For the rest of us we can do this very easily.
Bullshit. You mean that you don't believe the parts that you don't want to believe, and believe the parts that you do want to believe. You are right about it being easy for you though. Trump or Flynn tells you something, you believe it. The FBI tells you something, you don't. THEN you pull in whatever "tweets" and other "sources" you need to back up your claim.

Remember the Durham report and how he was going to prove the "Crime of the Century" according to Trump? So Durham writes up a bunch of stuff blaming everyone, but can't seem to get much in the way of convictions and only one plea to a charge that didn't even get a person a single day in jail. Same with Flynn. He lied to the VP of the United States AND the FBI. Trump fired him for it. Then he got charged. Then he plead guilty. Then Trump pardoned him... Those are the FACTS
 
Bullshit. You mean that you don't believe the parts that you don't want to believe, and believe the parts that you do want to believe. You are right about it being easy for you though. Trump or Flynn tells you something, you believe it. The FBI tells you something, you don't. THEN you pull in whatever "tweets" and other "sources" you need to back up your claim.

Remember the Durham report and how he was going to prove the "Crime of the Century" according to Trump? So Durham writes up a bunch of stuff blaming everyone, but can't seem to get much in the way of convictions and only one plea to a charge that didn't even get a person a single day in jail. Same with Flynn. He lied to the VP of the United States AND the FBI. Trump fired him for it. Then he got charged. Then he plead guilty. Then Trump pardoned him... Those are the FACTS

Most of us live in an echo chamber (ty algorithms and capitalism) and I'm sure his is particularly acute.
 
Bullshit. You mean that you don't believe the parts that you don't want to believe, and believe the parts that you do want to believe. You are right about it being easy for you though. Trump or Flynn tells you something, you believe it. The FBI tells you something, you don't. THEN you pull in whatever "tweets" and other "sources" you need to back up your claim.

Remember the Durham report and how he was going to prove the "Crime of the Century" according to Trump? So Durham writes up a bunch of stuff blaming everyone, but can't seem to get much in the way of convictions and only one plea to a charge that didn't even get a person a single day in jail. Same with Flynn. He lied to the VP of the United States AND the FBI. Trump fired him for it. Then he got charged. Then he plead guilty. Then Trump pardoned him... Those are the FACTS

Russiagate was the worst crime committed in this nations history.
 
"I'm just here to defend a party, not have a conversation and learn. I don't care how corrupt my guy is, I'm here to tell you that yours is worse. Far worse and It doesn't matter what you say, I'm not changing my stance"

Signed- The 2023 American.
 
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"I'm just here to defend a party, not have a conversation and learn. I don't care how corrupt my guy is, I'm here to tell you that yours is worse. Far worse and It doesn't matter what you say, I'm not changing my stance"

Signed- The 2023 American.
Let me guess, you only think "learning" is if people come around to your viewpoint? lol
 
Russiagate was the worst crime committed in this nations history.
That you would say this out loud, just shows how really ignorant you are...

Here are three that are MUCH worse and I didn't even have to think about it:




You listen WAY WAY WAY too much to Donald Trump. According to Trump, anything he does is the best thing ever and anything done to him is the worst thing ever. Just because he says that, doesn't make it so.
 
That you would say this out loud, just shows how really ignorant you are...

Here are three that are MUCH worse and I didn't even have to think about it:




You listen WAY WAY WAY too much to Donald Trump. According to Trump, anything he does is the best thing ever and anything done to him is the worst thing ever. Just because he says that, doesn't make it so.

Absolutely. There are 100's of events in American History that are far worse than anything in recent memory. Also, am I the only one who thinks calling every potential scandal "gate" is dumb and very played out?
 
That you would say this out loud, just shows how really ignorant you are...

Here are three that are MUCH worse and I didn't even have to think about it:




You listen WAY WAY WAY too much to Donald Trump. According to Trump, anything he does is the best thing ever and anything done to him is the worst thing ever. Just because he says that, doesn't make it so.
So you are OK with the government spying on political opposition?

Are you OK with using the FISA court against a political opponent?

Are you ok with fabricating evidence to use in the FISA court? For the purpose of spying on a political opponent?

And before you answer, remember your party won't be in power forever.
 
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Everyone (from either side) can bitch about the downfall of America all they want. The fact is we remain one of the wealthiest, most powerful, and most comfortable nations on earth.

Sure, we’ve lost a little of our shine, but we still have the juice to say jump and get a coalition of allies to say how high. You want to see all that go away and quick? You want to see China, Russia, and Iran create a new hegemony, putting so much distance between us and them that we’ll never get it back?

The destabilization of American security and economy is tantamount to the destabilization of both on the world stage. Do you want that? If so, keep talking National divorce.

Both sides would do well to RUN back to the middle bc if they don’t, it’s coming. And then everyone will realize real quick what a dumb fvcking move it was.
 
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