OT: Mass shooting in El Paso
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We can't even deal with making people show an ID before they vote, or deporting people who are in our country illegally. You are asking for the impossible.
Wearing ear protection so he want hurt his ears while he shoots people. Unbelievable.
Voter fraud isn't even a problem so let's not make false equivalencies.
Mass shootings are an epidemic that need to be addressed.
Ad hominem...lovely...
But thank you for this--I remember this from last year. I thought you meant some form of leftist organization with some kind of infrastructure. Those people were just a family in the desert living in filth who had a bunch of weapons and were religious extremists. Still very dangerous though...
It is a great point that we must condemn religious extremism in all its forms though, even if it comes from the right.
So lets get your full argument in the light--you seriously believe there is some sort of leftist conspiracy that goes and trains or sends out operatives to go shoot and kill people? Is that what happened in every mass shooting this year?
If you look at this list of 248 shootings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019 (they are labelled as 'mass' and if you want to say they aren't 'mass' that is fine but just stay with me...), were they all perpetuated by 'the left' or what group? How many antifa? How many communists? (I am glad to see that you think a country like Russia might meddle in our domestic policy or elections but that is just social media and trying to get groups to meet, not all that organized to my knowledge)
Sounds like you might be listening to a bit too much extremism like Alex Jones perhaps (who is now an admitted showman without any actual knowledge about things like Sandy Hook). But I do want to hear the full argument...
I laid out an argument that wasn't some leftist polemic--it was nuanced and he dismissed it. I can say the same for you...
Are you saying it doesn't matter what weapons troops have because the ability to kill with a weapon doesn't matter?
So if we sent troops into combat with nothing but knives they would win?
Of course the ability to injure and kill makes all the difference.
You need to make your point with fewer words. We can no longer ignore the cause and effect of these mass shootings. The objective could be killing people with the most potent over the counter gun for the purpose of creating more gun control and galvanizing the left wing political sphere.
Separation of guns and ammo in the home? Take a lap dude.
The presence of illegal aliens in this country is an epidemic that needs to be addressed... and would make us all safer than more gun laws that only punish the law abiding.
Don’t know if true. But, Congress needs to do something about illegal immigration. I have lived all over the world the fact that we MOSTLY follow our actual laws is the most stabilizing influence in society and the fact that our democracy has been so stable for many decades. Now that we are starting to pick and choose which laws we follow is the beginning of the end of a democracy or any government. Regardless, this guy is a piece of sh!t. Further indication of a need for Congress to do its job! Need to enforce immigration laws!!!
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I’m sure the reporting capabilities in other countries is lacking to the respect in ours, so I’m doubting the extreme low numbers in comparison to the United States. But I doubt anyone else is higher than low double digits.
We have a serious problem. I don’t know how to fix it, but the first step is probably acknowledging the problem instead of excusing it.
Even if you don't have police inspections to enforce it, why not make it a gun safety measure? This kind of thinking is so frustrating.
Almost all countries in the world have this regulation. It doesn't lead to the end of freedom. It means that less kids shoot each other playing with parents guns. And if that happens then yeah, someone could investigate why a gun owner wasn't being responsible with the storage of weapons.
I'm not saying this would stop everything--there is no magic bullet solution. It is going to take a lot to make society safer. But it didn't stop us from trying to make roads safer just because there are a bunch of crazy bad drivers or drunk drivers etc. Same concept.
We do have really stringent background checks on immigrants. It is why the system is so slow.
We don't have a voter fraud problem and in all the documented cases it is both repubs and dems and mostly human error (unless you are a republican in NC).
We invest millions and millions of taxpayer money into border security already. There is so much wasteful spending already...
The safest nations in the world do this...
Why is this SO extreme to you? It is storage...wow...
How many Mass shootings have been perpetuated by illegal immigrants?
You want short replies...got it...TLDR culture at its finest.
Ok. So how many of the 248 were by leftists? Where do they come from? Is it one group? Is it organized?
Why?
Because having laws that aren’t enforceable makes zero sense and costs taxpayers’ dollars that could be better used for something else. Separation of guns and ammo can not be enforced and shouldn’t be a law. How can someone defend their home from an intruder with an empty gun?
Listen, I’m all for common sense gun control, but that’s not what you’re for, because separating guns and ammo in your home doesn’t make any sense.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...f-alleged-walmart-shooter-posted-by-reporter/
This guy needs to be shot in the mouth with his own gun.
This guy needs to be shot in the mouth with his own gun.
Courtesy MSNBC and the Stalinist media. How about showing the statistic of gun ownership in Switzerland and gun crime. Dare you!
Let me warn you...it won’t fit your narrative.
Are you going to also list the regulations to acquiring guns and ammo there and how they are different to what we have?
The real solution involves all of the following:
1. Requiring states to report to a central registry. The Va Tech and Charleston shooters would've run into obstacles, if reporting occurred
2. More mental health counselors in the schools. Often, teachers and students know who these people are in advance.
3. Go back to the old NRA mission of educating and training responsible gun ownership.
4. Drop any references to gun confiscation. That will never happen here. Nor should it.
5. Get to root causes. It's doubtful that we can create stable two parent homes. We can provide mentors who guide yuh young men towards responsibility.
6. Parents call your kids out of the basement and turn off the gaming systems. If your kid is the best gamer in your neighborhood, you might have a problem. Send them outside for hard physical labor.
7. Tone down the rhetoric. The continual demonization of the other (immigrant, conservative, liberal, etc) with inflammatory language is gasoline for some living on the fringes.
8. Quit publishing the names and faces of the shooters.
1. Requiring states to report to a central registry. The Va Tech and Charleston shooters would've run into obstacles, if reporting occurred
2. More mental health counselors in the schools. Often, teachers and students know who these people are in advance.
3. Go back to the old NRA mission of educating and training responsible gun ownership.
4. Drop any references to gun confiscation. That will never happen here. Nor should it.
5. Get to root causes. It's doubtful that we can create stable two parent homes. We can provide mentors who guide yuh young men towards responsibility.
6. Parents call your kids out of the basement and turn off the gaming systems. If your kid is the best gamer in your neighborhood, you might have a problem. Send them outside for hard physical labor.
7. Tone down the rhetoric. The continual demonization of the other (immigrant, conservative, liberal, etc) with inflammatory language is gasoline for some living on the fringes.
8. Quit publishing the names and faces of the shooters.
Who said anything about our troops? I made a simple comparison that a third grader could understand. I still stand by my original statement, nothing more, nothing less.
What exactly is my narrative? I’m not advocating taking guns away. Hence the statement “I don’t know how to fix it” in my post.
And the Spectator Index isn’t affiliated with MSNBC as far as I can tell. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Illegal aliens?
I have no idea, however... I'd say its safe to assume that not every member of MS 13 or any number of other gangs are here legally. I'd wager that the number of deaths caused by illegals FAR eclipse mass shootings.
Where do deaths from mass shootings rank among all causes of death in the US... and how many, on average, per year is that?
WOW!
I wish someone was there with their conceal carry to shoot that mfcker in the mouth.
I always read your posts in this guys voice. This should be your avatar.
I'm not related to your kin.
Ahh...Switzerland. Estimates place the number per 100 people at either 27 or 42 guns. Lots of restrictions and govt regulation though...
In order to purchase most weapons, the purchaser must obtain a weapon acquisition permit (art. 8 WG/LArm). Swiss citizens and foreigners with a C permit over the age of 18 who are not under a curator nor identified as being a danger for themselves or others, and who don't have a criminal record with a conviction for a violent crime or of several convictions as long as they haven't been written out can request such a permit.
The following information must be provided to the cantonal weapon bureau together with the weapon application form:
- valid official identification or passport copy.
- residence address.
- criminal record copy not older than 3 months.
Generally prohibited:
- Automatic firearms such as machine guns.
- Automatic knives when the blade more than 5 cm and total length of more than 12 cm.
- Butterfly knives when the blade more than 5 cm and total length of more than 12 cm.
- Throwing knives; regardless of the shape and size.
- Symmetrical daggers where blade length is less than 30 cm.
- Brass knuckles.
- Shock rods or stun guns.
- Throwing Stars.
- Buttstock-equipped slingshots
- Tasers.
- Hidden firearms that imitate an object of utility, such as shooting phones.
Voted on by the people in May 2019 to include further restrictions on semi-autos.
Also remember that in Switzerland every male at 20 has mandatory military training and is required by the govt to have gun training.
I'd love it if we followed this restrictive model of gun training and safety. All about personal responsibility.
Sorry, sorry--forgot TLDR, right?
Seat belts? Wut? Is driving a car a Constitutionally protected right? No. That's why more gun laws and many of your silly proposals wouldnt fly.
Separation of ammo? How did you type that without laughing?
Now training I can see. So let's make it an elective to have firearms training in schools. Deal?
I'm like a twitter junkie so this post is like reading the Mueller Report. You know we are not getting paid right?
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