Personal use, yes. Like alcohol, there should be stringent distribution regulations and penalties for operating vehicles under the influence.
OT: SC Medical Marijuana Bill
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Not a flame, but what do you think the legitimate downsides are? And (perhaps a loaded question here) why do you think they outweigh the positives (private sector economic growth, additional tax revenue, etc)? And (definitely a slanted and biased question here) why should the government be able to forbid you from consuming this substance but allow the other substances that we do?
Neither of these things are really true. Accidents are up, and marijuana revenue is a very small percentage of the overall revenue in Colorado. Still, it’s more than 0.
I can't recall what show I heard this, but the sentiment rings true for me. In a free society, you don't need a good reason to make something legal, you need a good reason to make it illegal.
There are a lot of public health downsides, just like with any drug. This is why most physician groups and public health departments. oppose legalization. The benefits you mentioned haven’t shown to make much of a difference, and many other claimed benefits are unproven. In fact, most reviews of literature conclude that we need to know more about both downsides and benefits.
For my part, I don’t know if these downsides are good enough reasons to keep it illegal. I don’t think we’ll really see much good come of legalization, but I also think we’re at a point where prohibition isn’t doing much good.
I don’t really see the fact that alcohol and tobacco are legal as a good reason to legalize another substance that will harm people’s health. If what you’re concerned about is public health, then multiple wrongs don’t make a right. But public health probably shouldn’t be the only factor considered.
Yes, but this is a long-standing policy of prohibition. It’s not a new prohibition.
Poor policy shouldn't be maintained just because it's long-standing.
This is much sillier than pointing out that certain policies affect public health. Some prohibitions, like drunk driving, are more prudent than others, like banning men from driving. The better point to make would be that public health shouldn’t be the ultimate deciding factor.
It's the subject of this thread. The premise being that marijuana prohibition is poor policy.
If marijuana has effective medicinal qualities, wouldn’t big pharma just create medications using its active ingredients? This argument that big pharma is preventing legalization makes no sense to me, especially when there’s a pretty large marijuana lobby and industry. Also, opioids are illegal except in medicinal form, and those medicinal forms are tested and FDA approved. Marijuana needs to go through that same testing and approval process in order to find treatments that do what we want them to... but that would require the involvement of big pharma.
That’s the overall discussion, but it’s not really what the thread of responses you were in was about.
You said that you need a reason something should be prohibited, and that you don’t need a reason something should be legal- but marijuana is already illegal. A more general version of your argument could be: there’s a greater burden on people who want to make a change than on people who want to keep the status quo, because it takes some sort of intervention to prohibit something while everything is naturally legal. But the argument to prohibit marijuana was already made at some point, and was apparently found convincing. If people no longer find that argument convincing, then they can change course, but they still need to make a case for change.
But something that grows naturally and can be used without any additional production is? But I agree with you about alcohol. It’s not a drug it’s a poison.
I have enjoyed Marijuana occasionally mostly for anxiety or socially bc it calms me and my anxiety down and chills me out. 3 months ago i came across CBD and i now take it regularly. It’s been kind of life changing especially for sleep and anxiety but other benefits as well. To me it gives very similar feeling to marijuana without the stoned feeling. With weed you have CBD and THC, is there anything else? What benefits other than the high feeling does the THC have?
Also my mother in law has some side effects she gets due to years of chemotherapy and radiation. I gave her CBD gummies and she is amazed with how her symptoms go away pretty quickly.
Also my mother in law has some side effects she gets due to years of chemotherapy and radiation. I gave her CBD gummies and she is amazed with how her symptoms go away pretty quickly.
They are all significantly more addictive than pot?
I like the moron quoted at the end. I guess some people really like the government telling them what they can’t do. Thankfully baby boomers voting influence will continue to decline over time.
I’m sorry but you’re not a conservative. You might be a republican, but you side with the government regulating a plant. The same government that approves a stronger opioid every year.
Republican logic.
Legal pot is dangerous and will create massive dangers to public, but see TAX benefits lol.
Opioids are great, we need stronger versions. It doesn’t matter that kill counts keep going up.....
I'm for it all the way! It does not have in it the part that makes you high, and my sister in law in Colorado uses it for her bad back and it works! She gets it in gummy bears, and swears by it! Go for it !
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If each state let the the population for on recreational pot all 50 states would have it pass. It is common sense. The isssue is conservatives are trying to prevent the willl of the people. Those same people they are suppose to represent.
If you think otherwise look at conservatives states love for opioids. I don’t see those noble republicans stopping the approval of more opioids.
You sir don’t know how to read. I never said it causes more accidents than alcohol. I said it will lead to the increase of accidents. You should go back, read, and then rejoin the conversation.
And not a single soul that has said I’m wrong can prove otherwise. Heck, 1 admitted he doesn’t have the stats to back up the claim they go down and another said a simple google search backs up my claim. But hey, let’s just assume I’m wrong, right? How very liberal of you!
You have no stats to justify this. There are stats that say opioids kill more people than car wrecks. This didn’t stop the FDA from approving an even stronger opioid this year.
ITT I learned that @dpotter24 isnt smart enough to pay attention to. He thinks he’s conservative but in actuality he is all for big government. He’s a liberal.
I have cut my opioid use 75% since starting MM this year.
With all due respect, you don't know WTF you're pontificating about.
Do you actually know anything about opioid policy, or are you just BSing? Because it sounds like you don’t really know anything.
It’s funny how many people in this thread respond this way to somebody who’s actually correct. This is why I wonder if a lot of people just think marijuana is totally harmless.
This isn’t correct. I think you’re talking about CBD oil vs marijuana. In fact, when medical marijuana is legalized, it includes smoking the same stuff, often with much higher concentration of THC, as the illegal street drug.
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would be interested to see numbers from Colorado/Washington regarding fluctuations in Motor vehicle accidents since their laws began...Beyond that, the question is about medical marijuana and this particular law, purportedly, would starkly limit access to epileptics, cancer treatment and and little else...If you are talking about Recreational, fine, but the OP was asking about a particular bill introduced in SC...And again, to your point, I would be interested in seeing numbers pertaining to Motor vehicle accidents in those states with a longer and larger sample size of legal marijuana usage, before saying a bunch of pot smokers are gonna kill us all.
Republican Christians have no problem taking opioids or being prescribed them. These same people think pot is a dangerous drug and legalization would result is mass crime and deaths. All studies show there is a major opioid crisis and to no ones surprise the government isn’t doing anything to help. Instead more powerful opioids have been approved.
There shouldn’t be a pot discussion at all. The government has allowed much more dangerous and addictive substances. If pot should be illegal so should numerous other substances.
I also notice you ignore the truth that pot would pass in a general vote. Last time I checked the government is “for the people by the people.” So Republicans going against the will of the people makes no sense.
The government is good at three things: war, taxes, and killing citizens.
