2 Ukrainian pilots are in U.S. to determine fighter jet skills
Yet the U.S. still does not plan to send F-16s to Ukraine, for now.
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U.S. Troops Running Out of Arms and Munitions as Biden Keeps Sending More to Ukraine | The Gateway Pundit | by Mike LaChance
As the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, Biden keeps sending military equipment and ammunition to Ukraine.
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As the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, Biden keeps sending military equipment and ammunition to Ukraine. There is no end in sight, and Biden has even said as much.
Yet here in the United States, arms manufacturers can’t keep up with demand, and our own armed forces are already running dangerously low.
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We’re fine.U.S. Troops Running Out of Arms and Munitions as Biden Keeps Sending More to Ukraine | The Gateway Pundit | by Mike LaChance
As the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, Biden keeps sending military equipment and ammunition to Ukraine.
As the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, Biden keeps sending military equipment and ammunition to Ukraine. There is no end in sight, and Biden has even said as much.
Yet here in the United States, arms manufacturers can’t keep up with demand, and our own armed forces are already running dangerously low.
2 Ukrainian pilots are in U.S. to determine fighter jet skills
Yet the U.S. still does not plan to send F-16s to Ukraine, for now.
Usually takes about 3-6 months for what the govt said isnt real to become real. Unless theres an accident delivering the abrams tank
Leave it to Lindsay.
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You have no objective reason to believe that beyond him sharing your view of things. Which is fine, but don't claim otherwise
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anon_5e8aassgcbjz1
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You want to hear a great idea for ending the war tomorrow? Russia withdraws from the Ukrainian territory it's occupied.
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No. I do agree with him but its more than him agreeing with me. He has knowledge based on his experience that I do not and I like to hear what he has to say. I fully believe he is honest and telling his opinion in a true and honest manner.
Furthermore, please tell me what he said that is undoubtedly incorrect.
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There are plenty people that have more experience than him that you vehemently disagree with.
We’re not going bankrupt because we spend less than 1% of the federal budget sending military aid to Ukraine. Bringing it up is a red herring. I don’t see ineptitude as it concerns Ukraine. If you want to argue that’s not in our interest to support Ukraine, how’s the alternative any better?
You are not correct. We have already allocated over a hundred billion to Ukraine and the yearly amount allocated to military is under 1 trillion...recall near 900B so its over 10% of what our total military budget is. They could use over 100B and totally secure our southern border and then actually revitalize the US infrastructure for real as opposed the lie infrastructure bill that they passed where most of the money goes to scams but will not do it and yet they are happy to send over a hundred billion over there with no accountability for what its being used for.
Go ahead and tell me who has more experience than MacGregor on the current scene that I should be listening to. Please also tell me specifically what MacGregor said in this interview that is incorrect.
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Could have been an accident. Most Russian planes are hot garbage, either by design or by poor manufacturing and maintenance.
This is on a "stealth" plane (quote this message to see the image):
Meanwhile F22 and F35 are so stealthy that they may as well have a Cloaking Device from Star Trek. Especially F22.
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Lots of truth here. I wonder if Ukraine is Russia Afghanistan 2.0 or Russia's version of Hitler invading Poland. It's tracking more like Afghanistan, since the US was helping in that one too.
It's also a great opportunity to test US equipment against Russian equipment. That's the same reason some of our adversaries in the ME have Russian hardware - Russia also wants to see how their stuff will perform.
There were good reasons to not alienate Russia before this (mainly that we didn't want to potentially face a Russia/China alliance), but Putin has made it very clear he wants to reunite the old USSR. Eventually the US will have to make moves to stop that. So here we are.
I'd rather it be with US equipment and Ukranian lives than US Equipment and US lives.
That said - if we avoid the Russian winter, I think a NATO invasion of Russia wouldn't be as difficult as a lot of people think. But I'd rather not find out.
Respectfully, I think you are very wrong on the viewpoints of a Russian invasion by NATO. I also think Russia has no grand plan of pulling a Hitler type assault on Europe and the world. Russia just is going to defend that buffer between them and NATO and Ukraine is it and I cannot in honesty blame Russia for that. Ukraine is also historically part of Russia and most of the people in the eastern part of Ukraine consider themselves to be Russian so in reality it is a border dispute just like DeSantis said. If we keep pushing them into China's hands then watch out though.
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Peace would be great. All Russia has to do is withdraw. Why is the onus on Ukraine? .
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anon_5e8aassgcbjz1
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Why doesn’t Russia just withdraw? Then there would be peace
I would be ok with that but its not happening. They will beat Ukraine and we do not need to spend any significant resources over there.
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Sure, but you can hardly blame the Ukrainians for fighting to push them out. They're not going to negotiate with Russian troops squatting on their land. No one would.
You say they'll beat Ukraine as if it's a fact. They sure as hell haven't done a good job of that so far. Ukraine has better equipment and morale.
You are listening to propaganda. Ukraine has been beat badly already and it will get worse.
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I've followed the war more closely than you, without a shred of doubt. What have they been beaten badly at?
Russia's sole achievement in the war is forming a land bridge to Crimea, which is going to be the target of a Ukrainian offensive soon enough. Ukraine succeeded in driving the Russians out of Kharkiv Oblast and the right bank of the Dnipro at Kherson entirely. Early Russian offenses on Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Mykolaiv were abysmal failures. Russian tactical successes in Donetsk are minor, inching forward against heavily fortified towns and defensive lines that are bleeding them dry while the overall structure of Ukraine's forces remains intact. There is no collapse anywhere.
The only propaganda being listened to is on your end. If you want to have a legitimate discussion about it, I'm all ears, but don't dismiss me as somebody who just parrots what I hear on the "mainstream news."
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Exactly. Who knows how it will end, but Russia isn’t doing well. They are bleeding troops and resources. Meanwhile, Ukraine is getting increasingly advanced Western weapons, tanks and air defense systems.
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Russia isn’t conscripting hundreds of thousands and more or less begging Iran, North Korea, and China for aid if things are going to plan.
Ask Igor Girkin, the separatist scumbag who tried to seize Slovyansk in 2014, if all is going well for Russia in the Donbas.
Putin has his useful idiots though
Meanwhile, our country is self destructing while we are giving them billions. I wonder why???
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Is it now? I must have missed it. Using already budgeted money is causing a non-existent "self destruction?" It never ends
I am still not completely sure how I feel about the situation in Ukraine. I am all over the place but one thing I do know is that what we've spent is peanuts if we end up breaking the back of the Russian regime. The world now sees what a paper tiger the Russian armed forces are. We've gotten so much from this exchange. It's not very well considered to say otherwise. How far we should go is another matter entirely.
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Trump's crowd doesn't want to see "weak" Biden (and the US) score a win of that nature.
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I don't think it's a win for Biden. I believe he has failed completely in the situation because we haven't worked to forcefully resolve this matter by providing an off-ramp for Putin and Russia. Now China is involved and we look weak and incompetent. Biden may be the worst foreign policy mind in our nation's history. He's been wrong on almost everything for his entire career. A child guessing answers on a multiple choice test would get more right.
