If Putin gets leverage on Ukraine he will not stop there. This is bigger than Ukraine. Poland, Baltic states ,,, at some future time. Based on Trump's comments, he would open these doors. Not just NATO, but global instability.
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You are just ignorant. Apparently you believe what Putin says. How stupid and gullible, unless you are Russia state media or bot.
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He attacks a NATO country, that triggers article 5.
Countries who signed the NATO agreement, should keep with their obligation to spending 2% of GDP on defense. It IS that simple.
I was born in the 70s, raised in the 80s. Spent my elementary years near Offut Air force Base where as a kid 2 times a year I and my classmates had to hide under our desks, because THAT would protect us 4 billion degree nuclear explosion …. Soooooo I have no love for the Russians. Only country I despise more is the filthy thieving Chinese …
For the money we have spent on Ukraine, we could’ve eradicated all student and healthcare debt. Additionally we could’ve ended homelessness …. but NOPE … here we are , sending BILLIONS to a losing cause. Quite frankly, I’d rather us spend the money to stomp out Communism from within our own borders.
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As of July 2024, NATO member countries' defense spending as a percentage of GDP is as follows:
- Poland: 4.12%
- Estonia: 3.43%
- United States: 3.38%
- UK: 2.3%
- Canada and Europe: 2.0% on average
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/...024, 23 Allies are,USD 430 billion in defence.
Yep ... Thanks to Trump telling them in his first term they had to step up and pay their fare share.
And the dems bitched about how he was being mean and destroying NATO.
Sooooooooo they are meeting their contractual agreements … finally … like Trump asked them too.
Piece of advice. Stop listening to the liberal media fear mongering. Evidence has shown that listening to it too much will make you want to shoot people.
Gee....you think the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the massive aid these countries have provided Z has impacted those numbers at all?
Russian state media is liberal media? Do you trust Putin? Same can be said relative to Fox etc..
Do you not consider why Russia was so active in aiding Trump when he was elected? Trumps relationship with Russia started before that.
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There are a lot of moving parts for global commerce, shipping lanes is one that is significant. NATO is a key element.
Undersea cables carry an estimated USD 10 trillion in transfers every day; two thirds of the world's oil and gas is either extracted at sea or transported by sea; and around 95 per cent of global data flows are transmitted through undersea cables. For NATO, the protection of critical undersea infrastructure is essential to security and defence because it is key to securing and protecting the prosperity of Allied societies.
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90% of Ukraine aid spending stays in the U.S., creating thousands of jobs
Although some may claim U.S. aid vanishes into a cesspool of unchecked Ukrainian corruption, one study has shown that 90% of Ukraine aid dollars are not actually sent to Ukraine after all. Rather, these funds stay in the U.S., where leading defense contractors have invested tens of billions in over 100 new industrial manufacturing facilities, creating thousands of jobs across at least 38 states directly, with vital subcomponents sourced from all 50 states.Virtually all the munitions Ukraine is most reliant upon are fully built in the U.S., ranging from javelins made in Alabama, to Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) made in West Virginia, Arkansas, and Texas. Not forgetting the smaller-ticket items such as night-vision gear, medical supplies, and small-arms ammunition, all made in the U.S. Any additional Ukraine aid would likely only help the U.S. economy even more, since previous weapons shipments were largely drawdowns of musty old stockpiles and existing inventories rather than
Way to sell this war that has killed and maimed hundreds of thousands in a place that has no vital US national security interest by touting economic advantages. You go bro. Forget about all those young families with no father and parents whose young sons will never come home.
Great statement. Has nothing to do with NATO increasing its spending.
CBS and publications owned by News Corp. Cut the cord on Fox many years ago. I have no political party allegiance and detest priority to partisan politics over. Oath of office.
Our 2 party system has gone off the rails.
Its you thats ignorant. Russia cant seem to take Ukraine and you seem to think he might will take over the world? Poland would be a tougher nut to crack than Ukraine and they wouldnt dare try Germany...At the end of the day its all about math. A China-Russia alliance that pushes into Canada and US should be where your focus is. Step one is China taking Taiwan while at the same time Chinese commandoes that are already here will attack military bases and key infrastructure to tie down our forces here at home so we cant help Taiwan. Step two they will join with Russia and come thru Alaska and Canada. They dont have the ability to invade say California from the sea. Supply lines will be very important to them if they want to win. They have to come at us from there. Will this happen? Dont know if they have the balls to try but if they do thats where it will come from. China has already had troops in Canada training with the Canadian military. They are getting a lay of the land...
