⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️

[GoodWord28]

They sold their Edisto home last year. Dont see anything for the mosele property. It’s actually 2 addressed properties plus tracts. Honestly would be a great investment pre-Alex murdering his family.

1000+ acres with 2 lots already having utilities on site. Could have definitely built another couple homes and divyed up the tracts into 3rds and easily tripled (or quadrupled)his money. No financial issues if he had started to subdivide and build 2 years ago.
Palmetto bank hooked him up.

 

[Ole Tom]

I’ve now tried my hardest to listen to the case and the evidence presented and thrown out my pre conceived notions. Based on that I’m not sure I’d vote to convict because to me the state did not meet its burden of proof.

I’m a human so it’s very hard to check yourself and leave what you know and feel behind. I’ve tried. This is why I believe he did it but don’t believe the state has done its job.

This is at best tortuous logic from someone that does not seem to want to understand the point of the trial. The aim here is justice. I suspect the jury will reach the conclusion most have reached. AM is guilty as charged.

But juries are human. They sometimes get the wrong answer.

 

[Clemblack]

1. Surely he was selling pills, right?

2. I’m absolutely positive he killed them, but why kill Paul? Still don’t think that was necessary.

1. No
2. So that Mark Tinsley would have incentive to discontinue pursuing Alex's personal assets in boat case. Alex would no longer have to reveal his financials regarding boat case. Basically, killing Paul ended Alex's boat case troubles (he thought).

 

[CLEMSON96JDH]

I learned to read a long time ago. I can unerringly pronounce the name Murdaugh.

Of course, I lived quite awhile in Charleston. It took me ages to get used to how locals pronounce the name of the street named Huger.

It’s French 🤷‍♂️

 

[Cavitybacks]

1. No
2. So that Mark Tinsley would have incentive to discontinue pursuing Alex's personal assets in boat case. Alex would no longer have to reveal his financials regarding boat case. Basically, killing Paul ended Alex's boat case troubles (he thought).

Just seemed like a ton of pills. I haven’t looked in to the exact numbers, but seemed like lethal doses.

 

[Ole Tom]

Even during this trial, I stopped looking/listening to their commentary because it was so slanted and to a point obnoxious. Pretty much have gotten all my info by following Avery Wilks twitter page because he's pretty good on just reporting facts of what's going on in the courtroom.

That's not to say I don't think AM is guilty. I definitely think he did it and is a terrible human being.

Yep. Listening to Mandy, Fits, etc is like listening to Fox or CNN, or MSNBC or anyone else with a forum and thinking you're getting something close to the truth and nothing but the truth.

 

[purple2]

It’s French 🤷‍♂️

 

[Cavitybacks]

What if he had just admitted to being there from the beginning?

If he had admitted being at the Kennels with them from the beginning, I think he gets off. His lie at that point could’ve easily been “I ran up to shower before going to Almeda”. Totally believable. The lie is really what nails him.

If there was no video, I’m not sure he would be charged.

 

[Ole Tom]

claiming he was working, stealing money, and doing all the shit he was doing at least 1000mg of pills a day...my goodness

my guess is Busters lying ass probably knows where it is

I casually watched this affair for a coupe of year and I have not seen anything that suggests Buster actually knows where his ass is.

 

[GoodWord28]

Craziest thing is that they didnt have the cell phone data until January. When they out Murdaugh in jail, they didnt really have anything . No lies. No being at the scene of the crime. No cellphone data placing him there at the time of death.

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

Watching Creighton Waters do work in closing arguments tells me he’s a member of TI and has been taking notes at night!

 

[castlesl]

Craziest thing is that they didnt have the cell phone data until January. When they out Murdaugh in jail, they didnt really have anything . No lies. No being at the scene of the crime. No cellphone data placing him there at the time of death.

They had his actions at the roadside shooting, all the financial stuff (major motive). And enough lies and knowledge to know that the whole think stunk.

They didn’t have any hard evidence, so I guess you could say they rolled the dice. Probably more of a calculated bet.

 

[Ole Tom]

French 🤷‍♂️

Well, FWIW........
The surname of MURDAUGH was a baptismal name 'the son of Murdoch'. Early records of the name mention Murdac, Dean of Appleby who was recorded during the reign ...

If you want to get there in Charleston, you say YouGee. If you want your name to be Murdock, you spell it that way.

 

[castlesl]

@Cris_Ard is there a thread like this on the site down in Cola? Are they pushing 500 K views?

 

[castlesl]

Well, FWIW........
The surname of MURDAUGH was a baptismal name 'the son of Murdoch'. Early records of the name mention Murdac, Dean of Appleby who was recorded during the reign ...

If you want to get there in Charleston, you say YouGee. If you want your name to be Murdock, you spell it that way.

Only thing the French are good for is wine and unused weapons.

 

[GoodWord28]

@Cris_Ard is there a thread like this on the site down in Cola? Are they pushing 500 K views?

A lion doesnt concern himself with the opinion of an antelope and such haha



But im interested as well in how they feel about former gamecock football players alec murdock

 

[castlesl]

A lion doesnt concern himself with the opinion of an antelope and such haha



But im interested as well in how they feel about former gamecock football players alec murdock

That picture should be push pinned to the top of the board.

 

[sloanMB]

A lion doesnt concern himself with the opinion of an antelope and such haha



But im interested as well in how they feel about former gamecock football players alec murdock

Will they put a #welcomehome sign on his jail cell?

 

[GoodWord28]

That picture should be push pinned to the top of the board.

 

[ClemsonGentleman]

It's pronounced Mur-daw.....that's how is spell. Just like Alex is Alex not "Elic". Even if the family members are saying it differently, just means they don't know how to read and pronounce the English language.

Murdaugh Pronunciation

How to say Murdaugh in English? Pronunciation of Murdaugh with 9 audio pronunciations, 1 meaning, 1 sentence and more for Murdaugh.

www.howtopronounce.com

This is a peeve of mine. Athletes do it all the time (including Clemson players). If you last name is "Smith" you can't say, "Oh, but its pronounced 'Jones'."

Proper names can be pronounced anyway the person wants it announced.

ELEC is a common way to pronounce Alex in The South.

The family pronounces their last name MUR - duk.

 

[jeffcoat]

How different is this trial if:

1. There is no snapchat video placing Alec at the kennels

And

2. AM doesn’t take the stand

State would have no case if not for the video(s). They wouldn't be able to refute his alibi. And him admitting he lied on the stand was damning.

 

[pwjacks]

Only thing the French are good for is wine and unused weapons.

Bullshit, the french invented democracy, existentialism and the menage a trois.

 

[jeffcoat]

Who would buy the house??? Why would they buy it?


Apparently, someone purchased it. And some lender financed it.

If I could get a huge deal on it, and could afford it (which I can't) I would buy it.

 

[purple2]

Bullshit, the french invented democracy, existentialism and the menage a trois.

 

[jeffcoat]

The State wouldn’t have a chance in hell. It’s sketchy enough as it is. The best move the defense has made was ensuring a speedy trial before the prosecution was really ready.

I wouldn't call it sketchy. I think it's pretty convincing. If not for the videos then yeah.

 

[tigerbean]

Poll for tomorrow:

How long will the jury deliberate?

1. Less than one day (hours)
2. 1-2 days
3. 3-5
4. 5-8
5. 8 or more

Something like this. I would go with 3-5 days.

@tigerbean what's your educated guess?

I think 1-2 days because get it tomorrow afternoon - and weekend looms

I think they will take it seriously but cut to the chase

I bet it will take 1/2 a day to review whichever parts of evidence to appease any concerns

 

[GoodWord28]

Bullshit, the french invented democracy, existentialism and the menage a trois.

Dont forget toast and fries

 

[kell9941]

Bullshit, the french invented democracy, existentialism and the menage a trois.

Those are three pretty good things.

 

[Lot4tailgater]

How different is this trial if:

1. There is no snapchat video placing Alec at the kennels

And

2. AM doesn’t take the stand

No Snapchat no indictment in my opinion. Onstar helped the state but way after they made their initial case.

 

[CUT93]

Maybe, maybe not. This has not been conclusively established.

Maybe, maybe not. Same types of guns/caliber, but that doesn't mean much. These are very common guns and calibers.

Means nothing. Very circumstantial

Same.

THIS. By far strongest evidence particularly since he lied about it.

Nor any evidence that there wasn't.

Agreed this is strong circumstantial evidence.


I have been practicing law for 20 years, albeit not criminal. Personally, I think he either did it himself or hired someone(s) to do it and he/they got there early and he was there. Either way, guilty of murder but possibly not as charged, which is sadly typical in our criminal system. I would be far some surprised if there is a hung jury. Would be shocked if he is found not guilty. Defense has done a good job introducing doubt and that is all they can do with the circumstantial evidence that clearly points the finger at Alex as either the trigger man or being there and directly/indirectly participating.

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure it was established that the shells/casing from the murder weapon and the shells/casings found in many other areas of the property where the murders did not occur were from the same weapon. If that is the case, I see no reasonable explanation as to how the murder weapons were not his. Why would you question who owned the murder weapon?

 

[PawJourney]

If I could get a huge deal on it, and could afford it (which I can't) I would buy it.

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[pwjacks]

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure it was established that the shells/casing from the murder weapon and the shells/casings found in many other areas of the property where the murders did not occur were from the same weapon. If that is the case, I see no reasonable explanation as to how the murder weapons were not his. Why would you question who owned the murder weapon?

Yeah, recognized that a few posts later

 

[castlesl]

I think 1-2 days because get it tomorrow afternoon - and weekend looms

I think they will take it seriously but cut to the chase

I bet it will take 1/2 a day to review whichever parts of evidence to appease any concerns

You put the odds of a hung jury at 60% ish. Would they be allowed to deliberate for only 2 days with out a verdict?

 

[poates6]

I casually watched this affair for a coupe of year and I have not seen anything that suggests Buster actually knows where his ass is.

This seems personal to you.

 

[TigerTC]

I don’t know much about the SC judiciary.

Does Judge Newman have a clerk or clerks? A staff attorney (or access to a pool of staff attorneys)?

This is a long trial for everyone involved, and he is doing an excellent job.

 

[ClemsonHunter]

He will have one law clerk who usually are prior year law school graduates and one admin assistant.

 

[TigerTC]

He will have one law clerk who usually are prior year law school graduates and one admin assistant.

Thanks. He has a lot to manage and sits on the bench 6 hours a day -- and has to be alert and at the top of his game for every minute of those 6 hours.

 

[GSMTiger]

I don’t know much about the SC judiciary.

Does Judge Newman have a clerk or clerks? A staff attorney (or access to a pool of staff attorneys)?

This is a long trial for everyone involved, and he is doing an excellent job.

Thanks. He has a lot to manage and sits on the bench 6 hours a day -- and has to be alert and at the top of his game for every minute of those 6 hours.

I've been super impressed with Judge Newman over the course of this trial. He has been direct, firm, and confident...yet lighthearted and funny at times too.

 

[Cris_Ard]

@Cris_Ard is there a thread like this on the site down in Cola? Are they pushing 500 K views?

I wouldn't know. That would surprise me, though.

 

[Fleetwood Sac]

Those are three pretty good things.

I'm just saying .. that last one is pretty cool