⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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I am not so sure they invented the last part. They maybe gave it a name….. I suspect it predates France by quite a bit of time.
I tell you, this whole case has basically confirmed any stereo types of south Carolinians.
He testified he kept his pills on himself all the time because Maggie and Paul would otherwise find them. So for years he has kept these things on his person and interacted with law enforcement. Doubt he was to concerned about the pills the night of the boat accident.
and yet Paul texted that they were going to have to have a convo with him because they found pills
Are you surprised it is Jim closing and not Poot? Was thinking it was you that was pretty sure Poot would do a masterful job, but it may have been Boom.
my wife just said "this guy is all over the place and I don't think he is doing a very good job"
I assume he probably did both, pretty tough to keep 500 - 1000 pils in a pocket with out it bulging out.
I am not a drug addict but I would have to think if I were dropping that kind of coin, I would dang sure up my hide and seek game. Fake books, hidden slots in walls, I would find a way to hide those things so they couldn’t be found.
Jim Griffin's phone just went off, clearly and very loudly. How embarrasing. That is unbeleivable. I think he said "I thought I turned it off."
Could you imagine your defense counsel allowing that during closing arguments? Holy cow.
Could you imagine your defense counsel allowing that during closing arguments? Holy cow.
I think they decided the jury liked Jim more than Poot. Surprised Alec did not want to give his own closing arguments!
Newman told Poot when he first asked, that would be unprecedented in SC and he wasn’t inclined to do so. I assume Poot formally asked at some point before closing began.
hopefully guilty verdict eggs
a random thought from earlier in the trial...but I forgot to bring it up before...
So Ellick has a substantial addiction to pills. He had a bag full of pills in his pocket during first interview with SLED. Later on that night, SLED asks for his clothes to be taken as evidence. Waters asks Ellick if it was at that time that he removed the pills before handing his clothes over to SLED. Ellick responds, "yes."
Waters then asks, "what did you do with the bag of pills? where did you put them?"
Ellick responds with something like, "I'm not sure. I don't remember where I put them."
If anyone knows individuals that have an addiction...there is NO WAY that Ellick didn't remember EXACTLY where he put them. An addict keeps close, probably obsessive, track of their fix...impossible to "not remember"
Just a head-scratcher to me when I was watching.
So Ellick has a substantial addiction to pills. He had a bag full of pills in his pocket during first interview with SLED. Later on that night, SLED asks for his clothes to be taken as evidence. Waters asks Ellick if it was at that time that he removed the pills before handing his clothes over to SLED. Ellick responds, "yes."
Waters then asks, "what did you do with the bag of pills? where did you put them?"
Ellick responds with something like, "I'm not sure. I don't remember where I put them."
If anyone knows individuals that have an addiction...there is NO WAY that Ellick didn't remember EXACTLY where he put them. An addict keeps close, probably obsessive, track of their fix...impossible to "not remember"
Just a head-scratcher to me when I was watching.
Surprised at some time he did not walk by one of those drug dogs.....That would have been interesting
The Snapchat is the biggest piece of evidence in the whole trial. With out it, his lies seem more plausible.
A few things that struck me early in the trial:
1. Police (everyone from the locals to SLED) initially didn’t think he did it and treated him so. I interpret the actions of police that night with the crime scene and the Moselle grounds as a whole as being they didn’t think he did I it. Especially with they way they interviewed him.
2. Alex and Maggie had a good marriage. I don’t think she was trying to get out of it. If he killed her it wasn’t due too an impending divorce.
I was expecting the opposite of both of those things.
1. Police (everyone from the locals to SLED) initially didn’t think he did it and treated him so. I interpret the actions of police that night with the crime scene and the Moselle grounds as a whole as being they didn’t think he did I it. Especially with they way they interviewed him.
2. Alex and Maggie had a good marriage. I don’t think she was trying to get out of it. If he killed her it wasn’t due too an impending divorce.
I was expecting the opposite of both of those things.
he had a tendency to ramble between his questions, when he would question witnesses he would start /stop / start repeatedly. Almost like he didn’t know what he wanted to say next. Kind of like some people insert the sound uhm as a filler when they speak.
he is either doing it to confuse the jury and ramble to the point of someone having doubt or he just did not prepare well but you know Poot helped him prep
But he goes from drugs, to kennel, to sled, phones, love for family, etc
rinse, repeat
My adhd self is having trouble following
it took them forever to unlock his phone...that is when the lies started to be exposed.
It's certainly not a polished closing but he's no doubt doing this to confuse the jurors. Apparently, that's what lawyers do when the facts aren't on their side.
1. I don’t think you could really know enough in the first 3 days to form an intelligent opinion about who did or didn’t do what. Alex was well known and respected (clearly everyone was duped), so I don’t blame them for believing he wasn’t a likely suspect at that time.
2. People will show you what they want you to see. I doubt Maggie and Alex had as good of a marriage when all this went down. Did they at one point and maybe for the majority of their union, sure. There was something off and they were doing a fairly good job of hiding it.
Maggie told her sister she didn’t want to go to Moselle when her husband called and said his dad was dyeing and it was the end. Her sister had to talk her into going, that does not sound like the sky is blue to me. I think the sister knows Alex did it and she knew more than she let on about the state of their marriage but doesn’t want to drag her sisters name through the mud.
Waters did well yesterday. Griffin is doing a good job of explaining the fabricated evidence.
This is going to be interesting.
This is going to be interesting.
Poor ass plan then from where I sit. Poot has a little charisma to him at least. Griffin is terrible to me.
Yeah, the volume he bought wasn't for his own use. Those were amounts to traffic. He was selling them to someone else.
Sure they can. We can all choose to do things wrong.
The correct English pronunciation, based on the spelling, is 'Alex Mur-daw'
Evidently folks can choose their pronouns too. Some choose the wrong one. Doesn't mean I have to call them that.
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it only takes 1 to doubt but I think the way the timeline was laid out yesterday, paired with the lies that coincidentally favored AW is winning to me...but who knows with the 12 on the jury
But I think Griffin is fumbling and all over the place. Very unorganized. The power point yesterday was not impressive by presentation standards but it laid it all out...timeline...the lies...and placed Alex at the kennel before and after murders
Now he has to try and make his lies go away
He doesn’t have to make the lies go away. Griffin has showed the lord of SLED, the fabricated evidence and lies that brought about the indictment are crazy damning.
SLED screwed this up from the get go. The prosecutions witnesses have said it. Griffin is pounding that.
We are closer to acquittal than most want to believe.
There has been no fabricated evidence produced in this trial, and no allegation of such. You might be referring to what Owen told the family about the shirt, and to what he told grand jury about shells. The prosecution has not presented such evidence in this trial, to my knowledge.
They presented the evidence to get the indictment. Griffins point is we shouldn’t even be here and wouldn’t be had SLED not lied.
