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I keep hearing about how good a guy John Marvin is, but I put myself in the shoes of the parents of the deceased girl who are still trying to reconcile how in the hell he was the person to tow away the evidence the morning after the accident.

yeah that was crooked as hell. There is not many that could legally get away with that. I mean, it would not be a huge crime but it is definitely worthy of tampering one would think and when it is tampering with evidence that benefits your family then it is obvious he knew exactly what the hell he was doing
 
yeah that was crooked as hell. There is not many that could legally get away with that. I mean, it would not be a huge crime but it is definitely worthy of tampering one would think and when it is tampering with evidence that benefits your family then it is obvious he knew exactly what the hell he was doing

99.999999 percent of inebriated people driving that boat are in jail a few hours later.

99.999999 percent of family members aren't allowed to tow away the freaking evidence the next morning.

I get it: That was just that family's normal after running that community for a century. But it doesn't make it any less repulsive to the rest of the world.
 
99.999999 percent of inebriated people driving that boat are in jail a few hours later.

99.999999 percent of family members aren't allowed to tow away the freaking evidence the next morning.

I get it: That was just that family's normal after running that community for a century. But it doesn't make it any less repulsive to the rest of the world.

100% absolutely repulsive and just further showed how much above the law they felt they were
 
Here is some information on which we have to evaluate Randy ... I will start with the bad:

- On scene after stephen smith death and immediately calls Smith's mother to offer representation
- GMA interview claiming family isn't a dynasty and Alex is innocent
- Silence after boat crash while the world can see that his family obstructed justice
- Silence since GMA interview regarding Alex
- Feigns ignorance of his brother's thefts until after murders, even though he's stolen millions and reportedly stole from Randy himself
- Offers interview in blatant attempt to preserve his income by distancing from Alex only after verdict.


The good:

- picture in front of a wood pile.
 
99.999999 percent of inebriated people driving that boat are in jail a few hours later.

99.999999 percent of family members aren't allowed to tow away the freaking evidence the next morning.

I get it: That was just that family's normal after running that community for a century. But it doesn't make it any less repulsive to the rest of the world.
I'm not trying to defend them and I agree PauPau should have been locked up immediately after he got medically cleared at the hospital if they knew he was driving the boat. A convenient he said she said apparently was going on. Hell, they probably could've locked him up for disorderly conduct just by the way he was supposedly acting in the hospital.

I don't understand the John Marvin picking up the boat. I'm curious was SOP is/was. Were the authorities done with collecting evidence? Surely he didn't just show up in that mob and steal the boat. It would take time to get it loaded, secured, etc. He had to have asked someone with authority for permission. Whoever allowed it is more to blame that JM IMO.
 
I'm not trying to defend them and I agree PauPau should have been locked up immediately after he got medically cleared at the hospital if they knew he was driving the boat. A convenient he said she said apparently was going on. Hell, they probably could've locked him up for disorderly conduct just by the way he was supposedly acting in the hospital.

I don't understand the John Marvin picking up the boat. I'm curious was SOP is/was. Were the authorities done with collecting evidence? Surely he didn't just show up in that mob and steal the boat. It would take time to get it loaded, secured, etc. He had to have asked someone with authority for permission. Whoever allowed it is more to blame that JM IMO.


Right, the whole problem is the standard operating procedure you referred to.

It's not as if the family involuntarily benefited from SOP. They've been a part of it and orchestrated it forever.
 
I'm not trying to defend them and I agree PauPau should have been locked up immediately after he got medically cleared at the hospital if they knew he was driving the boat. A convenient he said she said apparently was going on. Hell, they probably could've locked him up for disorderly conduct just by the way he was supposedly acting in the hospital.

I don't understand the John Marvin picking up the boat. I'm curious was SOP is/was. Were the authorities done with collecting evidence? Surely he didn't just show up in that mob and steal the boat. It would take time to get it loaded, secured, etc. He had to have asked someone with authority for permission. Whoever allowed it is more to blame that JM IMO.


You must understand that Murdaughs have operated above the law for decades. When they "ask" if they can do something, they're actually telling the law that they're going to do it. They've run law enforcement, and most especially DNR, in the lowcountry forever.

Their persona is aww shucks, back-slapping, smiles and dove hunts. But it is all calculated and done with purpose. Every member of the family, and many of their close associates, have benefited from their corruption. It is now being exposed.
 
I'm not trying to defend them and I agree PauPau should have been locked up immediately after he got medically cleared at the hospital if they knew he was driving the boat. A convenient he said she said apparently was going on. Hell, they probably could've locked him up for disorderly conduct just by the way he was supposedly acting in the hospital.

I don't understand the John Marvin picking up the boat. I'm curious was SOP is/was. Were the authorities done with collecting evidence? Surely he didn't just show up in that mob and steal the boat. It would take time to get it loaded, secured, etc. He had to have asked someone with authority for permission. Whoever allowed it is more to blame that JM IMO.
Remember Randolph was at the hospital as well. I guarantee he was calling all of the shots (with Alex his asst) and everyone was falling in line from JM to those on scene. Grandiddy more than likely just declared "JM is coming to get the boat" and that was that.
 
Right, the whole problem is the standard operating procedure you referred to.

It's not as if the family involuntarily benefited from SOP. They've been a part of it and orchestrated it forever.
The problem is the LEO's that allowed them to do this are still employed as LEO's. They violated public trust and should have their badges removed and retired from public service. South Carolina deserves better and should demand better.
 
Interestingly, on the 20/20 show that aired a few days ago Randy sat with John Marvin and looked into the camera unequivocally saying there's no way Alex did it.

I think this particular interview was from a while back, but still.
yes, it was right after the murders I believe and shortly after that they quit doing interviews
 
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You must understand that Murdaughs have operated above the law for decades. When they "ask" if they can do something, they're actually telling the law that they're going to do it. They've run law enforcement, and most especially DNR, in the lowcountry forever.

Their persona is aww shucks, back-slapping, smiles and dove hunts. But it is all calculated and done with purpose. Every member of the family, and many of their close associates, have benefited from their corruption. It is now being exposed.
This 1000 times.
 
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Here is some information on which we have to evaluate Randy ... I will start with the bad:

- On scene after stephen smith death and immediately calls Smith's mother to offer representation
- GMA interview claiming family isn't a dynasty and Alex is innocent
- Silence after boat crash while the world can see that his family obstructed justice
- Silence since GMA interview regarding Alex
- Feigns ignorance of his brother's thefts until after murders, even though he's stolen millions and reportedly stole from Randy himself
- Offers interview in blatant attempt to preserve his income by distancing from Alex only after verdict.


The good:

- picture in front of a wood pile.
Think you are being harsh......none of the law partners had any idea Alex was stealing from them and clients

He petty well states his opinion of Alex has changed and he has not talked to him in a year

He was totally different from Alex his whole life

Was not interested in making every penny he could
 
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Think you are being harsh......none of the law partners had any idea Alex was stealing. from them and clients

He petty well states his opinion of Alex has changed and he has not talked to him in a year

He was totally different from Alex his whole life

Was not interested in making every penny he could
I have not talked to any lawyer who thought it was plausible that no one else at the firm knew he was stealing money. Most say that sort of thing would have been discovered within a month, yet he stole from numerous people over many years. It’s not like one settlement from one case slipped through the cracks.
 
The worst statement ever typed on this board

Patently false, as well.

Trolls need to be removed from the board
Your opinion. It's a message board and opinions will vary. (My OP about trolling was tongue in cheek but based upon your post, I now embrace trolls...which most sensitive souls will define as stating a position adverse to one's own position, thoughts or sentiments. I'm a Free Speecher so feel free to wholeheartedly disagree with me. That's your paid prerogative.)
 
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So now Alex is apparently a rapist too. https://www.foxnews.com/us/alex-murdaugh-allegedly-raped-sex-worker-thought-going-die-report


How long before he kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, caused global warming and provided DW4 his list of massage therapists?
That was reported last fall, as there was a question/discussion if that would be brought up at trial

There is cough, cough rumors of more sex workers or mistresses that he supposedly slapped around and/or choked
 
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Your opinion. It's a message board and opinions will vary. (My OP about trolling was tongue in cheek but based upon your post, I now embrace trolls...which most sensitive souls will define as stating a position adverse to one's own position, thoughts or sentiments. I'm a Free Speecher so feel free to wholeheartedly disagree with me. That's your paid prerogative.)
If you embrace them, we have plenty enough to keep you company and happy

Carry on…..
 
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Think you are being harsh......none of the law partners had any idea Alex was stealing. from them and clients

He petty well states his opinion of Alex has changed and he has not talked to him in a year

He was totally different from Alex his whole life

Was not interested in making every penny he could


I am not saying Randy is Alex, and we obviously won't agree as to who might be culpable in all this.

But I'll say this -
It's awfully naive to believe no partner in that law firm knew what was going on.
And, if you need a personal injury lawyer and hire Randy Murdaugh tomorrow, you're not smart.
 
I am not saying Randy is Alex, and we obviously won't agree as to who might be culpable in all this.

But I'll say this -
It's awfully naive to believe no partner in that law firm knew what was going on.
And, if you need a personal injury lawyer and hire Randy Murdaugh tomorrow, you're not smart.
I disagree with your first point. It is very possible if not probable. Given the nature of the firm and what they do, they relied on each lawyer to report and handle $$ correctly. They did not have some central billing and invoicing system. Alex is a proven liar and manipulator.
 
I am not saying Randy is Alex, and we obviously won't agree as to who might be culpable in all this.

But I'll say this -
It's awfully naive to believe no partner in that law firm knew what was going on.
And, if you need a personal injury lawyer and hire Randy Murdaugh tomorrow, you're not smart.
So, why would they allow it? It's costing them money.
 
99.999999 percent of inebriated people driving that boat are in jail a few hours later.

99.999999 percent of family members aren't allowed to tow away the freaking evidence the next morning.

I get it: That was just that family's normal after running that community for a century. But it doesn't make it any less repulsive to the rest of the world.
It reminds me of the way the main stream media and the Washington establishment takes sides and puts the fix in to sell many lies against one political party and to cover up scandals for the other favored party. I’m sure you’d agree
 
In high school, I had some dude's ID that worked in a warehouse with someone I knew that looked enough like me. Dude said for $25 he said he'd get you one. Deal done

My brother will get drunk and still call me by that name and bust out laughing.
Can't imagine bragging about breaking the law and drinking to excess.

We must assume you are a changed person. Moderator and all now.

Still somewhat strange.
 
So, why would they allow it? It's costing them money.


To make money.

It's only costing them since they got caught. Randy himself was stolen from, and did not blow the whistle that I'm aware of.

But there is plenty we don't know ... where is the stolen money? Who benefitted from it? Randy? Judge Carmen Mullen? John Parker? Untold law enforcement officials? We don't know.
 
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You must understand that Murdaughs have operated above the law for decades. When they "ask" if they can do something, they're actually telling the law that they're going to do it. They've run law enforcement, and most especially DNR, in the lowcountry forever.

Their persona is aww shucks, back-slapping, smiles and dove hunts. But it is all calculated and done with purpose. Every member of the family, and many of their close associates, have benefited from their corruption. It is now being exposed.
Follow the phone calls and texts from JMM right after the wreck. He is in constant contact with his best bud who was one of the highest ranking DNR officers, “asking” to take the boat.

The guy leading the investigation for DNR just so happened to be married to a gal who used to work at the law firm and grew up best friends with one of the partner’s kids.

Standard operating procedure for the Murdaugh’s, so I wouldn’t let Randy or JMM off the hook at all…
 
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To make money.

It's only costing them since they got caught. Randy himself was stolen from, and did not blow the whistle that I'm aware of.

But there is plenty we don't know ... where is the stolen money? Who benefitted from it? Randy? Judge Carmen Mullen? John Parker? Untold law enforcement officials? We don't know.
So you’re suggesting he was paying off his law partners so they would let him steal from them………that makes no sense….

My guess is that the paralegals and accounting clerks in the law firm feared and trusted AM and did not question things. As well, the clients he stole from are, pardon my generalization, gullible and uneducated. Add that to the fact that the CFO obviously didnt review the bank recs and 1099s and here we are.

He certainly could have been paying off folks but it wasn’t his law partners.
 
I can tell ya the CFO didn’t find out for years about it, wouldn’t think the partners were aware of it. She would know beofre them, no? She sure as hell didn’t act like she was involved and no way she would cover up, seemed like an f ing pistol
 
Alex's interview about Gloria Satterfields's fall.
She was not there to work (knocks out workers comp claim)
He was the only person to hear her say that dogs knocked her over (opens confession of responsibility for umbrella policy)

Knowing AM lying habits, this kinds stinks (but probably not murder imo).

 
I can tell ya the CFO didn’t find out for years about it, wouldn’t think the partners were aware of it. She would know beofre them, no? She sure as hell didn’t act like she was involved and no way she would cover up, seemed like an f ing pistol
I would think that the way he set it up would be easy to steal. He created the account mimicking the name "Forge" so outside folks thought they were paying settlements. It never even got to the firms accounts to for them to even know it had come in.

All he had to do with the partners is to claim the cases were never completed/settled/in escrow etc and he was still working them. He could keep that up for years unless the partners were proactive and looked in the court records for each case.
 
Poots back in Columbia

Dick addressed the Senate today. His seat has obviously been empty in the Senate chamber the last 6 weeks.
I didn't really have any issues with his comments, until this last one:

He also had three words for people he said slept outside for nights to get a seat in the gallery during the trial: “Get some help.”

There are a lot worse things that people can obsess over in our world than this trial.

Plus, what would he say about those of us who filled up 193 pages (and counting) on Tiger Illustrated? :)
 
I didn't really have any issues with his comments, until this last one:

He also had three words for people he said slept outside for nights to get a seat in the gallery during the trial: “Get some help.”

There are a lot worse things that people can obsess over in our world than this trial.

Plus, what would he say about those of us who filled up 193 pages (and counting) on Tiger Illustrated? :)
My father in laws company did plumbing work for Dick in the 80’s. He’s dead now but stated that he did work in his house and Poot refused to pay him. I guess he figured people would be scared to sue him. Typical scum bag politician if true. I don’t doubt the facts of my father in laws words he told his family
 
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Follow the phone calls and texts from JMM right after the wreck. He is in constant contact with his best bud who was one of the highest ranking DNR officers, “asking” to take the boat.

The guy leading the investigation for DNR just so happened to be married to a gal who used to work at the law firm and grew up best friends with one of the partner’s kids.

Standard operating procedure for the Murdaugh’s, so I wouldn’t let Randy or JMM off the hook at all…


I'm well aware. Know most of these folks personally.
 
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