gotcha...appreciate the inside information you have provided. I had a classmate from The Citadel that lived there and when I went to hang out there I heard that name almost immediately and that was over 20 years ago.
⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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gotcha...appreciate the inside information you have provided. I had a classmate from The Citadel that lived there and when I went to hang out there I heard that name almost immediately and that was over 20 years ago.
Kind of hard to obstruct justice when LE was complicit in the "obstruction".
Good stuff here from Harpootlian.
Nice references here to John Adams and Abraham Lincoln I was not aware of.
Nice references here to John Adams and Abraham Lincoln I was not aware of.
Thank heavens. Here I was about to turn off my auto renew.
Not sure I want to listen to Poot, but if he is referencing John Adam’s defense of the British soldiers that were in the Boston Massacre then he’s right if he is defending his representation of Alex. After reading John Adams I came to see there is honor in providing a good defense for accused people.
The biggest issue with JMM taking the boat away is that no investigations can be made after the fact. Take the AM case for example. All those expert witnesses went back to Moselle to do their own investigations. No one would be able to do investigations on that boat and have them admitted into evidence because of JMM taking the boat.
The boat should have been held by law enforcement since a death occurred, not released to the owner
The boat should have been held by law enforcement since a death occurred, not released to the owner
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You sound like a blast at parties.
Can we please keep this about the Murdaugh stuff?
I agree they should have held it and maybe they let him take it because he is a Murdaugh. If so that's wrong. But, even if that is true, the physical act of taking the boat with a ton of LE around is not sinister in itself. They had to allow it. LE probably needed the trailer (wherever that was) anyway. A boat sitting on the bank of a pretty swift river for days is not realistic.
One day after the crash, there was probably still a little bit of doubt about who was driving and they were still searching for Mallory. There was no confirmed death yet. Now, if I'm an experienced LE official with boots on the ground, I know who was driving and this is likely going to be a recovery, not a rescue.
I think the biggest issue is that they would not let Beach family members down to the site. If the site had been processed enough to have JMM go there to remove the boat, then it was processed enough for the family to go there too.
I understand the optics of this as well. However, from a LE perspective, I probably don't want the family of a lost person, who has likely passed, down hearing all the person to person or radio discussions about what's going on. I wasn't there, but the realist in me thinks they were probably trying to protect the Beach family from that. Why else wouldn't they let them down there? Nothing really to cover up to help PauPau at that point.
I now feel bad that I once had a fake ID too. I was 19 when I came to SC as a Knob. The drinking age was 20 in SC then. When I was a sophomore and the age jumped to 21 in SC. So when I went home to Maryland for breaks, I'd swing by DC before heading back to SC. Drinking age was still 18 in DC. I'd load the back of my car up with beer and head south. I was more worried about Col Dick finding it that I ever was law enforcement.
I also drove faster than the speed limited on my way to work today. I hope the board and forgive me,
if he is famous for this - I might need to do my own video blog
It's not the job of LE to protect the emotions of the Beach family. They denied access to the Beach family AND their attorney while giving the Murdaughs free reign at the crime scene. There was absolutely evidence to cover up/dispose of. There is no logical explanation why the family of the accused were allowed in while the family of the victim were kept out otherwise!
but you'd be fine with the family of the drunk driver of the boat's family to be down there but not the victims family? And as LE you'd allow the family of the drunk driver to handle the removal of the boat? That does not make much sense
Can you imagine smiling/smirking at a mug shot taken at a state prison where you will spend the rest of your days?
That intake form is scary insomuch as how cold it is. That is a single page document that shows the full extent of the rest of your life. You will never set foot on soil that isn't owned by the state until you the day you die. You might be breathing, but you are hopeless and here is the form to prove it.
Last week you wanted a public apology from him for testifying that his brother loved his wife and son.
This week you saying he sabotaged a crime scene by towing the boat away.
“He lost two family members dude”
Are you the one showing empathy?
Indeed. His life is effectively over. What a sad commentary and a display of utter self-destruction.
No to all the above. I've stated they should have retained the boat, but they likely needed a trailer. I'm just saying we were not there and we do not know the motives behind why things were done the way they were. Some of this will come to light if there is a trial this summer. I'm not going to automatically throw blame on all the LE personnel down there, and label them as crooked just because there was a Murdaugh involved. There are a bunch of Richie Roberts for every corrupt officer out there. Someone would have already said something if something of vital importance was intentionally tampered with. The boat case is pretty tight and not nearly as circumstantial as the murders. Let's not over dramatize this. It is obvious what happened now. While the boat could have and should have been kept as evidence, it likely would have provided very little beyond what they had already collected from it.
you can keep searching that document forever - it will have all infractions and basically his prison life story - whether medical transfer or disciplinary or educational - open book -
Has it been discussed as to whether anyone thinks he offs himself within the next year or two in prison?
Lettuce discuss this and get a few pages out of it .
Lettuce discuss this and get a few pages out of it .
Yep. I go and check Jesse Osborne/Susan Smith/Jerry Buck Inman every now and then
Ok man. You handle fits your description of this. Haha. It absolutely is the duties of any able minded LE officer with an ounce of conscience to protect the family of someone who is lost (they likely knew she was deceased by then) from all the radio chatter and person to person talk around a crime scene. I've never condoned the fact that they let JM get the boat. Just don't know that JM should carry the blame for that. They had to allow it for whatever reason. As I stated, the boat case is pretty solid, not nearly as circumstantial as the murders. Surviving eye witnesses, video of the dock, and forensic videos that pretty much show exactly what happened. I'm not sure there was evidence covered up. The handling of the Murdaugh family is the cause for concern here, but it will likely not impact the case...if it makes it trial.
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I think if he had the cods to do this, it would have already happened. We'll see though. Kirkland aint no joke.
Hopefully someone will shank his ass and save us tax payers some money.
Sorry not sorry on this one.
Edit: I will preface that with I do believe in the Death Penalty especially for the most vile and evil of humans. This is one of those cases IMO.
At som
At some point though we need to stop blaming Murdaughs and start holding LE accountable. Can’t fault a Murdaugh or anyone trying to get a leg up or special treatment, if I thought I could I’d try to receive special treatment for me or my family why not, but those that enable it definitely need to be in jail. At some point the locals that allowed it are part responsible as well. I get that they controlled the law in THAT area but not everywhere. Not letting Murdaughs off the hook by any means but there really should be a lot of heads rolling around out there. Maybe can still happen.
At the very least, I have one of the most self aware handles on the board, haha. I don't have any sources or connections to anyone concerning Clemson athletes or virtually any other topic of interest. Hence the handle. Now if we start talking custom cabinets, I can hold my own.
So they just ignored it til he stole money from them. If that is the case I laugh that he took their money too
Pretty sure the money from the Satterfield deal was still in the bogus account setup to receive it minus the fees for the attorney that was Alex's bud.. Pretty sure they have been paid
Bland said he had recovered 7.5 million for them from different parties involved in the scheme. Believe he got the full 4.3 million back from Alex and his lawyer buddy that he got to sue him.
Damn ...those are some dark EVIL looking eyes
Several attorneys do this full time it's so lucrative. They monetize their threads and get paid sponsors. They have to hit on the right content, but it is a business.
I get the sentiment about the death penalty....but for someone like AM, maybe a life sentence sitting in jail with the lower class, wearing prison garb, eating crap food, following someone else's schedule, having no access to the beach or private jets, and possibly figuring out that he (not Paul) forever tarnished the Murdaugh name may be the better justice.
Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. The wheels of justice ⚖️ are said to run slowly, but I imagine the prison timeclock runs at a 🐌 snail's pace. A life sentence would be a daily reminder of my crimes and a daily reminder that I'm left to rot.
Nobody should've been allowed down there, whether Beach or Murdaugh or anyone else. But Murdaughs were allowed, and Beaches were not. Repeatedly. Fact.
LE also repeatedly reported to Randolph and Alex Murdaugh at the scene.
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Well, I think this is true for most people. However, if Ellick is a true narcissist like many believe, then he is too prideful to kill himself, and he will acquiesce to prison life.
