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⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️

A DNR agent literally told the mother of another of the kids, that night:

"We don't need to call Mallory's parents. We don't want to bring more confusion to this."

Sorry, but they lose all benefit of the doubt based on that alone.

Combine that with the established fact that Murdaughs were allowed onto the scene and no one else was, and there's no way to rationalize how LE handled things after the accident.

To quote Judge Newman, this family had access to the wheels of justice for a century. It's hard to make the case that the aftermath of the boat wreck was remotely a departure from this established pattern.

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Agree 100% Larry. They should’ve contacted them as soon as they were able. And to discourage that is not acceptable. I have to assume the survivors contacted their families and, of course, Mallory couldn’t do that.

I was speaking more to keeping them at a distance once they did get there. Probably should have had some dedicated to them throughout the search. I’m also not saying that JMM should’ve been allowed in the scene. I just can’t put all the blame on him and haven’t heard how the investigation was compromised by that.
 
Agree 100% Larry. They should’ve contacted them as soon as they were able. And to discourage that is not acceptable. I have to assume the survivors contacted their families and, of course, Mallory couldn’t do that.

I was speaking more to keeping them at a distance once they did get there. Probably should have had some dedicated to them throughout the search. I’m also not saying that JMM should’ve been allowed in the scene. I just can’t put all the blame on him and haven’t heard how the investigation was compromised by that.

I don't know if anyone is putting all the blame on him.

All we know is that the whole situation sounds shady, and quite similar to how things had been handled with that family for decades prior.

Fortunately we'll get closer to the truth when the trial starts in August.
 
Was it ever mentioned if SLED looked at Randolph's phone? I wonder how often Alex was around or calling Randolph the weeks before the murder and what those conversations were like. If only Alex's phone could tell that story...
 
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you can keep searching that document forever - it will have all infractions and basically his prison life story - whether medical transfer or disciplinary or educational - open book -
Sadly, I admit that I found the state database and ran the search after conviction. I had a few acquaintances over the years that chose the wrong path and I found them too. Once you're a ward of the state (aka prisoner), the public can check your records in a way that a college student's parents cannot search their kids academic records (even if we're paying that college tuition).

I'm curious who, if anyone, will fund AM's canteen account over the rest of his life.
 
I'm curious who, if anyone, will fund AM's canteen account over the rest of his life.

Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought I read or saw somewhere that AM inherited $4M from his Dad and it is in a Trust that is protected from lawsuits??
 
And to think: If not for the advent/proliferation of cameras almost none of this would be coming to light.

It'd be all hearsay.

"Alex, did you wear a badge to the hospital?"

"No."

"OK."

"Did you even go to the hospital?"

"No."

"OK."
Yep.

With Murdaugh’s trial experience using technology, he'd covered himself "but for the Snapchat video that speaks from the grave." That video resulted in Duffy Stone (AM's buddy) recusing himself and the state leaning hard in on AM. Otherwise, AM skates on the murder charges and might possibly get out of prison at some point with just the financial crimes.
 
Thank you.

"I'll try to represent TI better and not mention stupid shit I did as a kid"
That would be a good start.



Lashing out because you decided to brag about stupid, immature stuff and get called on it.

Being asked to be a moderator SHOULD come with a modicum of responsibility to be a little above the roar and chatter of the norm, am I right @Cris_Ard ?

Yes, you let everyone know who you are and where you went to school and where you live and what you do for a living and who you know...
You are not shy about that.

So, bragging to your old cronies? Publicly?
Must be a cultured crowd.

Most people, as they mature, learn to leave childish things behind.
Certainly, everyone remembers things they wish they hadn't done: legal and illegal.
I do.....way too much and too many.
Not many would brag to total strangers about them.

Some might, as evidenced by some of the trashy comments on here by people that would likely never say the same in person if not hiding behind a 'handle'.

Surprised that @Ole Tom wanted to fan the flames of impropriety.
Maybe he's setting us up for a 'tell all' post.

BTW, Nick (apologize for using first name as we don't know each other) I appreciate all the many topics you bring to the board and how you fight for your position without lashing out at individuals even when they get a little out of control.
Class.
I personally believe you to be a good guy.

I KNOW you are an example to some; probably many. Exemplar to a lot of folks, maybe.

As you wished me, I wish you a Great Day of ACC Tournament action.
@Cris_Ard, he has a point. Nick’s a nice guy 🥸, but he is kind of sinful and irresponsible. Plus not very funny. If you’d like to sideline Nick and promote me, I’d humbly accept. Thank you
 
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Thank you.

"I'll try to represent TI better and not mention stupid shit I did as a kid"
That would be a good start.



Lashing out because you decided to brag about stupid, immature stuff and get called on it.

Being asked to be a moderator SHOULD come with a modicum of responsibility to be a little above the roar and chatter of the norm, am I right @Cris_Ard ?

Yes, you let everyone know who you are and where you went to school and where you live and what you do for a living and who you know...
You are not shy about that.

So, bragging to your old cronies? Publicly?
Must be a cultured crowd.

Most people, as they mature, learn to leave childish things behind.
Certainly, everyone remembers things they wish they hadn't done: legal and illegal.
I do.....way too much and too many.
Not many would brag to total strangers about them.

Some might, as evidenced by some of the trashy comments on here by people that would likely never say the same in person if not hiding behind a 'handle'.

Surprised that @Ole Tom wanted to fan the flames of impropriety.
Maybe he's setting us up for a 'tell all' post.

BTW, Nick (apologize for using first name as we don't know each other) I appreciate all the many topics you bring to the board and how you fight for your position without lashing out at individuals even when they get a little out of control.
Class.
I personally believe you to be a good guy.

I KNOW you are an example to some; probably many. Exemplar to a lot of folks, maybe.

As you wished me, I wish you a Great Day of ACC Tournament action.
Lets you and work up a psychological profile on Mr Nick. I think it would be fascinating ; )
 
Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought I read or saw somewhere that AM inherited $4M from his Dad and it is in a Trust that is protected from lawsuits??
That would explain how/why they plan to take his appeal “all the way to the Supreme Court”. I was scratching my head on how that was going to get paid for.
 
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Lets you and work up a psychological profile on Mr Nick. I think it would be fascinating ; )
I think a psych profile on tigerworx would be interesting. A nerve was clearly touched and his degree of self-righteousness was pretty high. A little over the top for people kicking around a bunch of stuff in a sports forum.

Hey, but maybe he suffered a Timmy boat like situation with someone close. Idk…
 
If only those dogs in the kennels could tell their story.
They did. Per AM, the night of the murders those dogs didn't bark because there were no strangers around.

(1) No barking + (2) No strangers + (3) Two Dead + (4) One Alive to Share = Alex Murdaugh, Convicted of Double Homicide
 
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Buster be like, “Hey, don’t spend all of my inheritance!”
Little Red needs to tell his Daddy, "Big Red, either you leave my inheritance alone, or, I cannot fund your prison uppercrust lifestyle of 'beef sticks, prison Ramen, and other tradeable items. If you drain the well, there's going to be nothing left to drink.'"
 
I have not talked to any lawyer who thought it was plausible that no one else at the firm knew he was stealing money. Most say that sort of thing would have been discovered within a month, yet he stole from numerous people over many years. It’s not like one settlement from one case slipped through the cracks.
I was a Big 4 audit partner, and I had law firm audit clients. Law firms are very, very simple businesses. Kinda like koolaide stands. Cash in, cash out. No inventory, intangible assets, meaningful fixed assets. Cash in, cash out. I understand why the law firm wants to say they were deceived. But, that’s either an acknowledgment of ignorance or complicity. Same for the Palmetto Bank CEO. They all got drug into the scheme/cover-up. Lots more people should answer for this.
 

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Great read!

I too still believe it was a mistake to put him on the stand. Jurors will always find it difficult to be sympathetic to habitual, admitted, liars regardless of the crime.
They put him on the stand because the financial information was allowed to come in as prrof of motive. If judge doesnt allow it, he would not have taken the stand.
 
They put him on the stand because the financial information was allowed to come in as prrof of motive. If judge doesnt allow it, he would not have taken the stand.
Yes sir, I know. And I reviewed Harpootlian's comments on the decision to put him on the stand. Still, I thought it was very risky and a mistake. There was no way an admitted, repeated, liar was going to get sympathy from the jury IMO.
 
Yes sir, I know. And I reviewed Harpootlian's comments on the decision to put him on the stand. Still, I thought it was very risky and a mistake. There was no way an admitted, repeated, liar was going to get sympathy from the jury IMO.
Neither lawyer looked thrilled standing in front of Judge Newman, but I think AM knew he was a goner, don’t think he really had anything to lose or a choice. At that point he probably thought this is my last chance to BS my way out. I would have lost the farm though cause I would’ve bet it all that he wouldnt take the stand
 
Yes sir, I know. And I reviewed Harpootlian's comments on the decision to put him on the stand. Still, I thought it was very risky and a mistake. There was no way an admitted, repeated, liar was going to get sympathy from the jury IMO.
I don't think there was a decision to put him on the stand. As the client, I'm guessing Alex told them he was going to take the stand and there was nothing they could do to stop it.
 
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I don't think there was a decision to put him on the stand. As the client, I'm guessing Alex told them he was going to take the stand and there was nothing they could do to stop it.
To your point, watching the Creighton Waters interview with WLTX from today (above), he said he was confident all along AM would ultimately take the stand and that AM was confident he could convince jurors by constructing more lies/new stories, etc.
 
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I don't think there was a decision to put him on the stand. As the client, I'm guessing Alex told them he was going to take the stand and there was nothing they could do to stop it.
Attorneys get to make most of the decisions in a case.

However, the defendant makes these decisions:

1) Whether to plead guilty or not guilty.
2) The forum (a judge alone bench trial or a jury trial).
3) Whether to testify.

In my jurisdiction, the judge will even ask the defendant:
"Mr. XX, you did not testify. Was it your decision not to testify?"
 
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To your point, watching the Creighton Waters interview with WLTX from today (above), he said he was confident all along AM would ultimately take the stand and that AM was confident he could convince jurors by constructing more lies/new stories, etc.
I think Creighton had a good gauge on Alex’s narcissism, which is why he felt/hoped Alex would take the stand. He’s gone as far to say he changed his cross examining style because he knew Alex felt the need to talk, hence so many of the long pauses.

I was skeptical during the process, but Creighton manipulated Alex and walked him right down the path of lying about why he lied. Without all of the repeated questioning about why he decided to lie to SLED then closing out with the video cam of one of the initial responders, Alex is most likely a free man.

Creighton said he lost 10 pounds during the trial. It’s likely from self love the night he found out Alex was testifying.
 
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