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⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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I don't think you can buy that at an auction house in Georgia. But good luck. Hope you get him for a good price.
So was he raped or not? I can't believe a rape kit was ordered and nobody knows the results.
I can't believe with all the FOIA requests done on this case that this rape kit hadn't come up yet.
Thankfully you aren't 5'2" with red hair and a prison jumpsuit.
Who killed Maria Telles- Gonzaolez? Woman found murdered in a ditch on Murdaugh turf in 1995.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/who-kill...woman-found-murdered-ditch-murdaugh-turf-1995
Let's keep this thread going!
https://www.foxnews.com/us/who-kill...woman-found-murdered-ditch-murdaugh-turf-1995
Let's keep this thread going!
That is a stretch (to say the least) to link this in any way with the Murdaughs.
"Murdaugh turf?"
'People have more money than sense': Here's what sold for big bucks at Alex Murdaugh estate auction
The disgraced attorney's belongings were auctioned off in Pembroke on Thursday at the Liberty Auction House.
wyff4.com
I just watched this. For the lazy people on the thread who'd rather spend time kvetching about a video without context, I'll be a pal one time.
Mark Tinsley is interviewed and provides context for why he thinks things happened in the time space and order they did. Lots of interesting info in the video. My take away to the "Why Maggie" is that he agrees believes that AM told the truth on someone planning the murder several months in advance. Mark Tinsley tried to get AM to accept liability for Mallory Beach, he wouldn't. Tinsley had captured through social media the level of Paul's drinking (family seemed to include alcohol in most things) and Maggie had "liked" the posts showing that drinking. Tinsley didn't have similar documented evidence on AM to attach parental negligence (Tinsley used a better term in the video but essentially this is what is seems linked to) to AM. When AM wouldn't settle or accept liability and everything was shuffled to Maggie's name, Tinsley had to add Maggie to the lawsuit to ensure he could prove the parents knew about Paul's alcohol and behavior problems but let him drive the boat and then have sufficient assets from which to satisfy a judgment.
Only way AM could reduce the liability was to kill Maggie too. (He'd clear the deck on the Beach lawsuit, get his assets back, and continue his fraud.)
Other interesting info included that there was no life insurance on AM, so that whole Labor Day story is bogus. You can't defraud an insurance company if you don't have a policy. The timing of the shooting is linked to AM knowing they were convening a Grand Jury. AM thought he was going to be indicted so he created the suicide diversion. Tinsley got pictures of the alleged shooting, which per Tinsley, looked like no shooting he'd ever seen (as in likely some other kind of injury).
Tinsley doesn't buy the opioid story. He was using Cousin Eddie and others to cash checks and give him back the cash. AM created the convenient narrative.
In the end, Tinsley believes that all of AM's actions were for one person - AM. AM didn't care about the Murdaugh name (and clearly his actions demonstrate that).
Mark Tinsley is a good guy and glad he's a Clemson man.
with his history/lifestyle, how would they know if he was raped? Not being mean. I rly just don't know.
wonder if it is part of the new evidence brought to light in the Murdaugh murder investigation?
This is the most sensible reason that I have heard yet as to why he felt both had to go.
Mark Tinsley is likely a great attorney because he's a logical thinker that understands how people work. He knows AM and was in the middle of the situation dynamics. AM would have no reason or basis from whoch to tell Maggie's sister that he thought the killer had thought about it for a long time......unless he knew because he was the killer who'd planned it for months.
AM had a scheme around everything. Such wasted energy and life because everyone would have been better served if he'd been a better father (maybe Paul would have not been an alcoholic who drove that boat); husband (setting fiscal boundaries for his family so he wouldn't have stolen from others); family member (so he wouldn't have made his last name internationally infamous); and person (so he wouldn't have been morally devoid and done good things in his position but not left a trail of death and financial ruin in his community).
Ozark was a fantastical tale....AM's schemes trump Ozark (and I suspect we've just hit the iceberg and we've more to learn).
Agree. I heard on the news last night that he was given a rape kit (I don't really know what that entails, and don't want to know), but it was never analyzed. And no telling if they know where it is.
Alex Murdaugh's sister-in-law snags family belongings ahead of auction
Christy Murdaugh, Alex Murdaugh's sister-in-law, stopped by Liberty Auction in Georgia Thursday to collect some of her family's belongings before they were auctioned off.
It seems Tinsley is a good lawyer. So was AM. What have we seen from tinsley that says he’s a good guy.
Lawyers that work in the field that AM and Tinsley work in aren’t usually good guys. Not saying they are psycho like AM, but you don’t usually hear them heralded as good guys.
A stretch? Really? Because they haven't been entitled and above the law in Hampton County (turf) for generations? The only thing that makes me question the link is that I haven't seen evidence that a Murdaugh family member has initiated a legal claim for damages in this case, but its probably not a stretch to look into.
That’s lazy journalism and police work, all articles like that are just click bait. I see this becoming a recurring theme, the family will be at blame for any cold case or whatever else.
It'd take about 30 seconds to break the code on an iPhone.
How much money could Alex Murdaugh's attorneys earn for double murder trial, appeal?
How much does Alex Murdaugh spend on legal fees, and where does this money come from? What to know about how attorneys, alleged victims, may be paid.
www.greenvilleonline.com
It always amazes me how the attorneys always get their money first.....How much money could Alex Murdaugh's attorneys earn for double murder trial, appeal?
How much does Alex Murdaugh spend on legal fees, and where does this money come from? What to know about how attorneys, alleged victims, may be paid.www.greenvilleonline.com
Another angle will be when there is not enough money to pay all the settlements in all this....will the attorneys take their cut off the top leaving nothing for those that were wronged ?
just curious what makes you think that?
and I am in that business, will let others judge my good/bad guy status
Generally speaking “ambulance chasers” are viewed as extortionist. Less about righting a wrong and more about money, money, money.
The Beach girl got on a boat with a drunkard that was currently drunk driving. Should her family get some sort of settlement or cash, maybe, but she chose to be there and get on that boat with an alcoholic that was hammered driving.
Several lawyers I’ve spoken too don’t have a high opinion of Tinsley and that’s why I was asking if he was a good guy. Hoping for some feedback if their that may actually know him and not he’s good cause he’s a Clemson tiger!
I have never chased an ambulance, but I have been called to help when the coroner has responded to a tractor trailer disregarding traffic and killing a wife and mother of 3.
Also been called when a Truck with a flat bed trailer pulled in front of a father of 5 riding a motorcycle, killing him instantly.
So if helping people who are facing uncertainty when their respective worlds are torn apart, then I am happy to do what I do..
Don’t know Tinsley and IF you actually know 3 lawyers that don’t like him, then that’s THEIR opinion, not yours.
But from my own eyes, I see a straight shooter standing up for a family against an institution of influence and crime. Arguably, his work shed light on other crimes.
If you are ever injured or have someone taken from you at the hands of another, I guess you won’t call a Plaintiff’s attorney because of your deep-rooted knowledgeable ways.
Also been called when a Truck with a flat bed trailer pulled in front of a father of 5 riding a motorcycle, killing him instantly.
So if helping people who are facing uncertainty when their respective worlds are torn apart, then I am happy to do what I do..
Don’t know Tinsley and IF you actually know 3 lawyers that don’t like him, then that’s THEIR opinion, not yours.
But from my own eyes, I see a straight shooter standing up for a family against an institution of influence and crime. Arguably, his work shed light on other crimes.
If you are ever injured or have someone taken from you at the hands of another, I guess you won’t call a Plaintiff’s attorney because of your deep-rooted knowledgeable ways.
You don’t see any difference in the two scenarios you mentioned, and the beach case?
Do I think poor decisions were made - sure
Do I think Paul was the cause of the deaths- more sure!
Can’t lock ourselves in the house and have to let kids make own choices - but they were killed not because of drinking but because a lunatic was their friend
Do you think they are to blame or Paul?
what’s your profession?
I’m in sales. Battle misconceptions all the time!
I think I’m the beach situation, they knew what they were getting into. Paul’s problems weren’t a secret. They were his friend and they knew what they were getting into. They could have stopped him from driving the boat. There’s plenty of blame to go around.
Holding Paul accountable should be done. If buster gave the id to Paul holding him accountable should be done too. I’m not arguing against that. Going after everyone and their mother to try and become millionaires is not what I believe accountable to mean. Then again I’m very old school and believe we should all be accountable for our actions.
I do know three different lawyers that have a less than favorable opinion of Mr Tinsley. I don’t know him, that’s why I was asking. He 100 percent appears glorious white night to most in this situation. I was trying to find out if that’s accurate or just a “he’s a tiger” and “we hate the Murdaugh’s” vibe or if there’s something more.
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Tinsley could be awesome. Maybe he kicked these three lawyers butts in the court room and they are sour about it. I’ll reach back out to them and ask.
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I have listened to several interviews with Tinsley and think he makes a lot of good points. At the same time, I agree with you that the Beach lawsuit seems more about going after people with deep pockets than holding those responsible accountable. Tragic and hopefully everyone tells their children not to drink and drive and not to get in a car driven by someone who has been drinking.
^^^ This.
The fact that all the kids told PM not to get in the boat and discussed getting an Uber says they know he was too drunk to drive. They voluntarily got in the boat with him. It shouldn't prevent PM from getting sued, but it should mitigate some of the liability. All those kids had MULTIPLE chances to make the right decision.
Late Entry: And all the kids were committing a crime by drinking underage as well.
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Yeah, all Buster has to say is that, "Paul stole it from me. I didn't realize it was missing." There's no one to dispute that unless Paul told the kids Buster gave it to him. Even if he did, its a "he said, she said" situation.
the biggest difference in them to me is the videos and people begging Paul not to drive. They knew it was not safe and then them pleading with him to slow down. Now it was their choice to get on the boat
Tinsley gave us insight into the Beaches mindset when he gave his first testimony in the trial. He mentioned that once they were not allowed to the boat crash scene and the Murdaughs were, they decided to go after them hard. My guess is the only way to make a point with Alex and Maggie about Paul and their entitlement was to hit their wallets hard. Tinsley was more than willing to help get the Beaches their pound of flesh from Alex.
poates6, do you always come into a subject from weird angles? Rich drunk crazy kid driving his Daddy's boat, holding his friends hostage to his insanity is responsible for the death of a young foolish woman and you do not respect the lawyer representing the poor family against the rich, connected, powerful and moneyed Murdaugh? And you are the guy who kept saying NOT GUILTY on AM?
The pattern you follow on this tragedy is just hard to respect.
I agree. I lost friend about 15 years ago. He and his best friend were both intoxicated, and they had an accident on a rural road. The driver survived, barely, but his friend, who was a passenger, was killed instantly. After the accident, the critically injured driver crawled over 100 feet to his friend and passed out. The first person on the scene found them together. After the driver recovered, he was charged with felony DUI, to which he plead guilty or no contest...can't remember which...but there was no trial. During the sentencing, he told the story of what happened, showed immense remorse, etc. The mother of the deceased spoke and basically tore into this guy. He received a pretty stiff sentence because of her testimony. She also went after what he had, which wasn't much, in a civil suit, and got most everything she asked for in a settlement.
Being in my early 20s at the time, I informed my family, that if something like that ever happened to me, they were to support whoever is on trial. If it wasn't driving, I was more intoxicated that whoever was driving.
What happened to Mallory Beach is very tragic, sad, etc. But things like this happen quite often. Most are not sensationalized like this case.
That part is a reason to get really angry. If I had been in the Beach’s shoes I’d probably have gone to Jain cause you wouldn’t keep me out of there without a fight.
Not sure I would say always. I do a good bit though. I’m thankful for the mind I have. Seeing things from different angles and perspectives is a blessing to me. It doesn’t always win friends and influence the mob though.
Critical thinking is one of my most cherished gifts.
I’m not sure why it’s hard to respect someone who really hates people died tragically but weren’t convinced of a states case. Or someone who believes it’s tragic that a young lady died and multiple friends of hers had to live through it, but that they all had a hand in the responsibility of the death, including the deceased.
That’s ok though, I woke up today not needing your respect and I’ll go to bed the same!
