⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️

[other1]

It may get more interesting. Apparently there was a church camera pointing at the location of the shooting. SLED confiscated the video before anyone could look at it.

Knowing what SLED knows would sure make this detective work a lot easier

Link

Knowing what SLED knows would probably end up with Alex posting bail

 

[TigerOnTheFly]

I doubt contract killers would use a 22 to shoot Alex and I doubt they would do it and not finish the job.

Good point, and using a .22 would be less riskier I suppose albeit still stupid. I can see him setting there by the road without a car in sight holding a mirror to make sure he got the angle right. LE reports superficial wound, later changes to entry/exit wound/skull fracture yet he's out of the hospital faster than the checkout line at QT.

 

[jpalmetto]

This is only the tip of the iceberg-tentacles all over! Ya'll really think Alex is in this country????? Nope

 

[TigerOnTheFly]

That complicates things a lot. That could be an erroneous report - knives don't leave 'fingerprints' or ballistic info. One Buck Hunter is gonna leave the same kind of slash in a tire as the next one. Or maybe it was stolen from his home or office when they cut the tire - they stole it and slashed the tire and left it somewhere.

This is just weird, man.


If I had to guess I'd say coincidence. But that is purely a guess.

There was a cop who seemed to sympathize with Anthony Cook, who took the statement that Timmeh (Paul) was driving the boat when nobody else did, and who was fired later for something supposedly unrelated. Maybe he decided to grind his ax?

So officer was fired later with cause for something made up to follow Murdaugh protocol, I can see that. It's becoming more evident Alex used his power however he deemed necessary to get whatever he wanted.

 

[tigers4381]

So officer was fired later with cause for something made up to follow Murdaugh protocol, I can see that. It's becoming more evident Alex used his power however he deemed necessary to get whatever he wanted.

That's how political power works. The more you have, the more you can hide. Just ask Billary.

 

[coop#]

Dis crazy, y'all

 

[LUV DEM TIGERS]

Alex was broke and he needed to get out of this court dilemma while also getting Maggie's life insurance.

I wonder how much, if any , he had on the son that was also killed?

 

[jwlcpa]

Going back a little bit to the boat crash, that is a long way to travel by boat from Paukie to archers creek, especially at night.

 

[anon_669y4tfxx1jjz]

 

[Dbatz]

The knife was tied to the slashing because it had tire rubber residue on it, this is very common, even if you wipe it or can’t see it. This in itself refutes a lot of the hypotheticals thrown around today. I got nothing better though, so carry on.

 

[jeffcoat]

Maybe there will be faulty security cameras in the jail ala Epstein.

But yea, there ought to be 2 people with eyes on him at all times, that rotate off one at a time.

Or maybe you just let him save the state thousands of dollars.

 

[CU Alumnus]

Dis crazy, y'all

Oh Snap!

 

[tigerjimp]

The knife was tied to the slashing because it had tire rubber residue on it, this is very common, even if you wipe it or can’t see it. This in itself refutes a lot of the hypotheticals thrown around today. I got nothing better though, so carry on.

Makes sense. So let’s say that it was his knife and it had his tire’s residue on it, and run with it.

So it would mean that either someone came up with the plan while at his house (or where ever the car was parked), found his knife, slashed the tire, and then discarded it nearby.

Or Alex slashed the tire himself, purposely pulled over where there was a camera (another interesting point), and had someone drive by and shoot him in the head (without killing him). Or maybe they weren’t supposed to hit him at all and he was going to hope to just have it on video. Keep in mind that he had no way to know if the video was even working, and it may not have been. I suppose the purpose would be to throw some smoke out there that someone has been out to get his entire family.

Idk, the second option seems too risky on multiple levels, including getting killed. In a tight race, I would go with the first option or that there is no associated knife that was found.

 

[VaTiger85]

I'm just waiting for the revelation that they actually have no idea where Alex is at this moment.

You know it's coming.

 

[ClemsonMax]

I'm just waiting for the revelation that they actually have no idea where Alex is at this moment.

You know it's coming.

Can tell you for certain they know where he is.

 

[Whenry]

The bi-polar express

 

[jpalmetto]

I'm just waiting for the revelation that they actually have no idea where Alex is at this moment.

You know it's coming.

He's already gone. Start looking in Argentina.....

 

[AtomicTiger]

He's already gone. Start looking in Argentina.....

Secret meeting with Mark Sanford at the law firm prior to staged tire changing “shooting”?

 

[TICrack]

Opioids don't have that effect on everyone, especially at reasonable dosages. In fact, for a lot of people opioids produce a stimulant type effect until the dosage reaches a certain point and then you get what you described. Unfortunately I know this from first hand experience because I was able to function in the work place just fine for the first couple of years of my opioid addiction. It wasn't until things had spun completely out of control that others finally started to see the outward signs.

This. There are plenty of functioning opioid addicts…at least for awhile. Eventually, it catches up to them.

 

[Fleetwood Sac]

Shirley Netflix is all over this right?

I can't wait for the TV special

 

[DaTater]

Shirley Netflix is all over this right?

I can't wait for the TV special

HBO Max is already on. Posted a story a few pages back

 

[CU Alumnus]

So you are trying to claim that a day after Alex was fired, Anthony Cook or someone related to him just so happened to shoot Alex? Cmon man.

Three days after the murders Alex was due in court for the Beech civil case where a judge was supposed to rule on a motion requiring he and his son Buster (who was being sued by the Beech's as well) had to hand over financial disclosures. He obviously didn't want that to happen with this embezzlement going on. If you look up county tax records he is late on several tax bills. Alex was broke and he needed to get out of this court dilemma while also getting Maggie's life insurance.

I don't believe I said that. I said MAYBE the Cook brothers, but that was one theory. Where'd I'd start based on what I know. Maybe the police have info that leads them another way.

Your statement about the court motion, etc does make 'self inflicted' (which was another theory I listed) seem more plausible. I honestly don't know all of these timelines.

But shooting yourself in the face is awful risky,,,,unless there is evidence that he didn't actually shoot himself in the face.

Are y’all crazy?

The knife is connected to Alex bc they found where he threw it in woods I bet, It also probably had blood on it from his superficial gunshot wound…

aka he used knife to make himself bleed digging off part of face or skull

slashed tire

threw it in woods

How eise would they know so quickly it was his knife?

Part that remains interesting….

Was this diversion to escape on chopper?

Only thing to that is why would he do that? Slash his own tire and then dig out part of his face?

 

[CU Alumnus]

Shirley Netflix is all over this right?

I can't wait for the TV special

Of course. And don't call it Shirley.

 

[Mr. Roger Dorn]

I don't believe I said that. I said MAYBE the Cook brothers, but that was one theory. Where'd I'd start.

Your statement about the motion, etc does make 'self inflicted' (which was another theory I listed) seem more plausible. I honestly don't know all of these timelines.

Only thing to that is why would he do that? Slash his own tire and then dig out part of his face?

My first thought after the murders was the one that’d been dating Mallory - believe that was Anthony. Lost all confidence in that after a few days passed without an arrest.

 

[tigerjimp]

Heard an interesting take at the game coming from some locals along the lines of the “Bosch” theory, except that it was the firm that had something to hide, did not want an audit, someone at the firm intended to have all three taken out, Alex was unexpectedly at the hospital with his dad, and another attempt was made once SLED made their discovery.

Now THAT is some deep NetFlix $#it if true.

 

[tallulahtiger30319]

Going back a little bit to the boat crash, that is a long way to travel by boat from Paukie to archers creek, especially at night.

and drunk.

 

[cellis04]

Heard an interesting take at the game coming from some locals along the lines of the “Bosch” theory, except that it was the firm that had something to hide, did not want an audit, someone at the firm intended to have all three taken out, Alex was unexpectedly at the hospital with his dad, and another attempt was made once SLED made their discovery.

Now THAT is some deep NetFlix $#it if true.

What is the Bosch theory?

 

[BHSRebels89]

What is the Bosch theory?

few pages back by the guy who has Bosch as his avatar, maybe @tigerjimp

 

[Every name taken]

and drunk.

VERY drunk. FIFY

 

[tigerjimp]

What is the Bosch theory?

#872 on page 22. I jokingly attributed it to my avatar...

Still my leading theory. The new Firm-involvement angle just seems too far fetched and gets sketchy trying to tie in the latest SLED discovery and Alex shooting, especially since the firm is now undergoing a forensic audit that I'm sure SLED will be interested in. I suppose the firm could have been trying to take Alex out again, but they would have to know that would put them under the microscope if they did.

But hey, it would make for an even better Netflix story

 

[HunterPKP]

#872 on page 22. I jokingly attributed it to my avatar...

Still my leading theory. The new Firm-involvement angle just seems too far fetched and gets sketchy trying to tie in the latest SLED discovery and Alex shooting, especially since the firm is now undergoing a forensic audit that I'm sure SLED will be interested in. I suppose the firm could have been trying to take Alex out again, but they would have to know that would put them under the microscope if they did.

But hey, it would make for an even better Netflix story

Still blown away the FBI hasn't decided to wade into the waters. Maybe they already have. If they do, many more heads are probably going to roll.

 

[CT76]

and drunk.

In February in only boxer shorts.

 

[tallulahtiger30319]

In February in only boxer shorts.

omg, I didn't know that part. WTH! Feb in SC is cold. Sure, no ice on the ground, but Feb is not boxer weather.

 

[tigerjimp]

Still blown away the FBI hasn't decided to wade into the waters. Maybe they already have. If they do, many more heads are probably going to roll.

It would have to cross state boundaries or be some sort of federal crime for the FBI to get involved.

Man, SLED must have some juicy stuff to work on by now. But I guess it is one thing to "know" what happened, and another to be able to prove it in court. Right now is like binge watching a great series and stuck with the major cliff hanger at the end of the last recorded season.

 

[Intracoastal]

Going back a little bit to the boat crash, that is a long way to travel by boat from Paukie to archers creek, especially at night.

This is correct.

Paukie is very near our family home down there. We frequent the Paukie Sandbar because it's so close and easy to take kids back and forth to the house. It's still mind blowing that they decided to take on that drive, at night, after drinking, in February, with 6 people in a 17 ft boat.

To give an idea of how sketchy that ride is late at night. I have been that route well over 100 times at this point. We go to the chechessee sandbar behind hilton head a few times a year which is very close to where they were going.

Here's a rundown from Paukie to the landing on the Broad they were using:
*It's roughly 15 minutes from Paukie to downtown(Luthers) going 30 MPH.
*It's an additional 10-15 minutes from downtown(Luthers) to archers creek which is almost directly across from the tip of Port Royal running 30 mph.
*Archers creek at low tide is extremely shallow and very narrow. As in 2 feet at the mouth and about 4-6 feet in the center. Maybe 15-20 yards wide. There are multiple forks and turns.
*Even experienced boaters/fisherman are not dumb enough to run archers creeks with speed at night and it's something you still have to "know" what to do during the day.
*Archers Creek is closed when the firing range is open on Paris Island.
*From the Port Royal mouth of Archers Creek to the broad river is about 5-10 minutes.
*From the mouth of archers creek on the broad river to the boat ramp is an additional 10-15 minutes running at 30+ mph and the cut between Daws Island can again be tricky if you don't know the channel depths. Oh and the Broad river might as well be the ocean right there. It's massive open water probably 2 miles across.
*From the boat ramp, its probably a 5 minute car ride to "Murdaugh Island".

In conclusion.....
From Paukie to the boat ramp they were trying to get to is a SOLID 45+ min boat ride running at 30+ mph in ideal conditions on a decent sized boat during daylight hours. At night being cautious it's probably double that. They were crazy.

 

[tallulahtiger30319]

This is correct.

Paukie is very near our family home down there. We frequent the Paukie Sandbar because it's so close and easy to take kids back and forth to the house. It's still mind blowing that they decided to take on that drive, at night, after drinking, in February, with 6 people in a 17 ft boat.

To give an idea of how sketchy that ride is late at night. I have been that route well over 100 times at this point. We go to the chechessee sandbar behind hilton head a few times a year which is very close to where they were going.

Here's a rundown from Paukie to the landing on the Broad they were using:
*It's roughly 15 minutes from Paukie to downtown(Luthers) going 30 MPH.
*It's an additional 10-15 minutes from downtown(Luthers) to archers creek which is almost directly across from the tip of Port Royal running 30 mph.
*Archers creek at low tide is extremely shallow and very narrow. As in 2 feet at the mouth and about 4-6 feet in the center. Maybe 15-20 yards wide. There are multiple forks and turns.
*Even experienced boaters/fisherman are not dumb enough to run archers creeks with speed at night and it's something you still have to "know" what to do during the day.
*Archers Creek is closed when the firing range is open on Paris Island.
*From the Port Royal mouth of Archers Creek to the broad river is about 5-10 minutes.
*From the mouth of archers creek on the broad river to the boat ramp is an additional 10-15 minutes running at 30+ mph and the cut between Daws Island can again be tricky if you don't know the channel depths. Oh and the Broad river might as well be the ocean right there. It's massive open water probably 2 miles across.
*From the boat ramp, its probably a 5 minute car ride to "Murdaugh Island".

In conclusion.....
From Paukie to the boat ramp they were trying to get to is a SOLID 45+ min boat ride running at 30+ mph in ideal conditions on a decent sized boat during daylight hours. At night being cautious it's probably double that. They were crazy.

Wow! It is shocking that no one on that boat had enough sense to stop the journey. I get that they were drinking, but dang. Someone had to have a sense of self preservation. Just wow.

 

[theShove]

Wow! It is shocking that no one on that boat had enough sense to stop the journey. I get that they were drinking, but dang. Someone had to have a sense of self preservation. Just wow.

The other guys on the boat said that they tried to get Paul to let them drive, but he would not let them. - Mrs. Shove

 

[tallulahtiger30319]

The other guys on the boat said that they tried to get Paul to let them drive, but he would not let them. - Mrs. Shove

thx. Yeah, was just listening to the podcast and caught that.

 

[MojitoJoe]

Wow! It is shocking that no one on that boat had enough sense to stop the journey. I get that they were drinking, but dang. Someone had to have a sense of self preservation. Just wow.

I think was even talk of them getting an uber from Beaufort at one point.

 

[anon_669y4tfxx1jjz]

big news….🙄…….they spotted Buster…ya gotta love facebook…one woman speculated on these photos in the link that he was hiding evidence…another responded that maybe he’s just taking out the garbage..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...qh-LiUIPHRuJ6gqF8ZqTLF6x2E7zGl_cVCqhAkhs-uqFQ