I like how the Judge told Poot not to say thank you after he sustained his objection. He seems like he is going to run a tight courtroom.
⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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I heard the defense allude to this as well but it doesn't seem to carry much weight for me.
Let's say the prosecution theory is correct and AM is the killer. His objective for whatever reason was to kill. Period.
He had no way of knowing the end result and what would happen to the bodies of Paul and Maggie. The gruesome end result was not his intent. His intent was to kill as quickly as possible because he knew he had to act quick for his alibi to hold any water.
At days end I’d say the one hour lapse of cell phones going dead an hour before the call, the change of clothes, how Paul was laying, the missing car from the tracks and Alex wanting to get off 911 call to call family and go get a fire arm give prosecution a pretty healthy lead if I’m on jury
Then he said it again after he said they’ll strike everything from any objection that’s sustained haha
Not even 5 seconds later
This reaction is precisely what the defense is banking on, I assume. So far, I think that's the crux of the defense. Sort of, hey Mr. Juror, it's simply not possible for this father to kill his own son. Regardless of what the evidence shows, Alex loved his son. Apple of his eye and all that. There's just no way. And then the State has to convince those jurors that this man did exactly that. Slaughtered his own son.
Before I thought this crime seemed idiotic by a supposed smart man(Murdaugh) but now I think this a guy that was just cocky enough to believe he could skew the evidence trail just enough to create reasonable doubt. If the state only has the suggestions of a theory, he only needs a few jurors to see reasonable doubt.
If Murdaugh planned it and executed it, why not pick up the shells? or make a bonafide effort to dispose of the bodies.
Seems like it was half planned/half impulse, or else he had help and maybe the other partner didn't complete the mission on cleanup?
Told my wife the same thing. The reasonable doubt thing is what will come into play. I think everyone thinks he was involved in some way
Before the murder he was a big fish in a small pond, and probably felt that it would be contained as a news story to local or maybe some state officials. He couldn't have known the story would be sensational and the Revered news source WEZ would have a prominent thread discussing on the TMB.
For sure. And to be honest. I deep down think he did it but still hard to imagine what goes through a father’s head to splatter his son’s brains everywhere. If he actually pulled the trigger (I say that bc I think it’s obvious they’re dead bc of his actions, whether he pulled the trigger or not), he is truly an absolutely evil person.
He’s been shown to be a con man and not living an honest life but this would have to be put in the classification of pure evil. Like I said, didn’t really hit home til they started describing the crime scene in extreme detail.
I have tried a ton of criminal cases and 5 murder cases. The outcome of a case is often unpredictable. I’ve won them when I would have bet the ranch that I lost them, and I’ve lost them when I thought I had won them. What strikes me as bad for AM is he owned a gun like the one that killed Maggie and it has disappeared. The gun that killed Maggie had been previously shot on the property. GSR found on the raincoat taken to parents house. Alex at the scene about the time the killings took place. Poot says AM loved his family too much to do it. AM is a sociopath who only loved himself. He stole from his clients and from his partners. A man who will do that will also kill his family. In spite of all that it could easily be a hung jury. What I fail to understand is why the state didn’t first convict him of the financial crimes. Then they could cross examine him as a convicted felon if he testified.
WEZ first I heard about Paul and boat wreck and Murdaugh family power
FITS news along with their Thornblade stories got me following them also (actually saw it in WEZ first)
The rest is I have spent more hours than I would like to admit following these stories
Glad Chris doesn’t have an online time posted here as I might spend a few seconds to much looking at such every day
FITS news along with their Thornblade stories got me following them also (actually saw it in WEZ first)
The rest is I have spent more hours than I would like to admit following these stories
Glad Chris doesn’t have an online time posted here as I might spend a few seconds to much looking at such every day
Dick got his undergrad at Clemson. We must pull for side!
Dabo and Danny would agree
His son seemed like a very bad kid. I think Alex is guilty but no tears for his son aka Timmy
I'm neither a Criminal Defense Attorney nor prosecutor, so I pretend to be neither on TI.
But, as an average citizen, I found the two LEOs testimony to be pretty solid for the Prosecution, but with enough openings for the Defense to poke holes.
Today made for some pretty riveting viewing.
But, as an average citizen, I found the two LEOs testimony to be pretty solid for the Prosecution, but with enough openings for the Defense to poke holes.
Today made for some pretty riveting viewing.
I don’t know how you get around the gun evidence if it holds up as validated evidence. The fact that someone gets goes to the property and uses the exact gun styles and ammo that Alex owned to kill his family? No chance of that. Most likely they would use handguns, not rifles. And if it was rifles, surely the ammo would be different.
Discussion at home is Alex bending over and slightly rocking back & forth during much of today's proceedings.
Any ideas? My daughter says possibly Alex is avoiding watching the video that's being shown. I'm not sure how visible the video is to the courtroom. Is it restricted to laptops or projected for mass view?
Any ideas? My daughter says possibly Alex is avoiding watching the video that's being shown. I'm not sure how visible the video is to the courtroom. Is it restricted to laptops or projected for mass view?
Almost assuredly he is guilty. Also extremely likely it will be a hung jury.
Well he got away with it for many years...if his bozo son had not wrecked that boat he would still be getting away with it.
He obviously did it for the money
Thought I heard em mention “leaning against” or “laying against”. May explain no more questions, cause you’re right that would be huge if it’s on his back
At what point was tik Tok video showing Alex in different clothes than an hour later discussed? Or was it not discussed? Can't imagine why that wasn't a major topic today, if it is true.
I think it was discussed this morning before I tuned in. That and their cell phones going dead 30 seconds apart after being active and it being an hour later before 911 call
Logical explanation as to why no blood was on him...he changed clothes. What am I missing?
He had an hour easily to change clothes get his story right. Just not sure if it will be enough
But only a few days in so lots to come out
I’m still wondering if there’s some drug angle. Alex owed the wrong people money and staged this to get life insurance money to pay back debts. Paul was causing trouble with lawsuit, wife was threatening divorce and exposing financials so he tried to kill all three birds with one stone
So why was Paul’s truck “missing” from the
Property and later found off a road in Hampton Co?
Property and later found off a road in Hampton Co?
They matched the rifle used to kill Maggie to being one of 3 owned by Alex, or at least 1 of 3 that had been commonly used at Mossell. It definitely was not someone else bringing in a similar rifle.
Yep, this appears indisputable fact based on the ballistics.
The defense disputed a lot during the opening statements but they did not dispute the ballistics. Instead, they kind of danced around the prosecution claim that one of the murder weapons was a murdaugh family gun. The defense stated that Paul was irresponsible with guns often leaving them in vehicles and even at the kennel.
The defense also stated that Alex cranked the vehicle and began driving towards his mother's at the same time Maggie's phone was dropped a quarter mile up the road. So the defense even seems to put Alex on the property when the killings occurred.
It seems that the defense is trying to paint this picture:
A person or persons with bad intentions came to the property with intentions of brutally murdering and even executing at least one of the victims. It is clear they are playing the execution angle. So, these persons with bad intentions proceeded to sneak up on Paul and Maggie while they were at the kennels, and instead of doing the job with their own weapons, they execute Paul and Maggie with guns they happened to find at the kennels (because Paul left them there) with ammo found all around the property and in the home. All the while Alex, who was just at the kennels a few minutes prior per video, but is now at the house a few hundred yards away and didn't hear any gunshots. Talk about a farfetched scenario.
Defense opening statement seems to be painting themselves into a corner.
I am fine with both scenarios. I like the US requires all jurors to decide not just a majority. I would much rather let a murderer go free than convict an innocent man.
I’ve been thinking this since the yesterday. I totally agree that he could’ve went for the quick, painless kill and had no idea it would turn out like it did.
I don't. think it was discussed yet in the Trial. I do think I have read that when Alex was being questioned about it, Alex claimed that he started to roll over Paul's body to "check his pulse" and claimed the phone fell out his back pocket and then Alex picked it up and set it on his back
