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⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️

I don't. think it was discussed yet in the Trial. I do think I have read that when Alex was being questioned about it, Alex claimed that he started to roll over Paul's body to "check his pulse" and claimed the phone fell out his back pocket and then Alex picked it up and set it on his back
yep. I remember that too
 
yeah and said he took the pulse. Captain said yesterday that there was no way to check pulse or turn the body over without getting blood on him...story flawed
The testimony of the woman who just went seems fairly damning when they describe how one would check the pulse and that she noted no blood anywhere on Alex as well as no footprints or knee marks around Paul’s body.

Like someone posted or tweeted, if only those dogs could talk.
 
Yeah, my wife loves watching Dateline and you see this all the time in those episodes. Even after mountains of evidence are presented and guilty verdicts, many family members still refuse to accept what actually happened. They don't want to believe the person they knew their entire lives is a murderer.

Reality is a bitch.

See also the friends and family of Bill Cosby and Joe Paterno for other examples. Their brains can't reconcile that the same person that they adored is really a scumbag.
In fairness it’s a pretty shitty situation to be in. And I don’t think anyone would want to believe the person they knew and loved is capable of doing those things. So you kind of hold out hope until you can’t anymore. I don’t know tough situation that I wouldn’t want to be in.
 
Curious, who the guy in in the gallery with dark suit, white shirt taking all the notes. Does the defense or prosecution have team members in the gallery?
 
LOL, so true. We might be the most disfunctional state in the country in that regard.

I remember getting a call from the House Labor Commerce and Industry committee asking me ,an insurance agent, if requiring liquor liability for every business that sold any alcohol consumed on premises would be bad for the marketplace. I gave them my opinion and asked why they would contact me for my instead of an industry group and they said they did a google search for liquor liability in SC and my website came up. This is the extent of thought that goes into some of the insurance laws in our state. Now every place that serves one drink to a drunk driver gets sued for max coverage for DUI cases involving injury regardless if they were the first of four places an offender stopped or not.

Now we are down to about one monoline liquor liability market in the state. The insurance lobbying groups gave up on this state a decade ago.

Even the plaintiffs bar, save for a few ****ing assholes, know this Dram Shop Shit has gotten out of control.
 
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Curious, who the guy in in the gallery with dark suit, white shirt taking all the notes. Does the defense or prosecution have team members in the gallery?
Gray hair and light blue tie? Right over Alex in video? That's Joe McCullough, a prominent attorney from Columbia. I believe he is representing one of the people that is suing for misappropriated funds. I also believe he is an acquaintance of the defense attorneys.
 
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Gray hair and light blue tie? Right over Alex in video? That's Joe McCullough, a prominent attorney from Columbia. I believe he is representing one of the people that is suing funds. I also believe he is an acquaintance of the defense attorneys.
Had a feeling he was a local guy, but couldn't recall.
 
Gray hair and light blue tie? Right over Alex in video? That's Joe McCullough.prominent attorney from Columbia. I believe he is representing one of the people that is suing funds. I also believe he is an acquaintance of the defense attorneys.
Yep Joe and Poot know each other a little. Haha. He ran for SC house as a dem a couple of times and narrowly lost to Kirkman Finlay both times.

Y’all do remember that Poot was chair of the SC dem party for years, got “out” of politics for a little while, and then won the dist 20 SC Senate seat a few years ago. His district was eliminated during the redistricting after the 2020 census hence the rumors he may not run for re-election in 24.
 
There is a guy on the state's side in a dark suit, white shirt, and longish white hair taking lots of notes that is a national journalist/reporter.
 
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In fairness it’s a pretty shitty situation to be in. And I don’t think anyone would want to believe the person they knew and loved is capable of doing those things. So you kind of hold out hope until you can’t anymore. I don’t know tough situation that I wouldn’t want to be in.
No doubt a terrible situation. I feel bad for the family.

Read an interesting interview from The Island Packet in Hilton Head with the brother that owns the Kubota dealership. When asked about the charges against Alex, the brother said something to the extent of he didn't believe Alex did it, but anything is possible. It wasn't "he didn't do it" or "there's no way he did it".

Kinda makes you wonder if the tiniest seeds of doubt are there for at least some of the family.
 
There is a guy on the state's side in a dark suit, white shirt, and longish white hair taking lots of notes that is a national journalist/reporter.
Joe McCullough is sitting on the aisle just over Red's head. Dark suit. Gray hair. Taking notes.

He represents victim Connor Cook (I think) in the boat case.

Edit: some quick research probably will confirm that Joe McCullough represented usc during steroid scandal of 80s.
 
No doubt a terrible situation. I feel bad for the family.

Read an interesting interview from The Island Packet in Hilton Head with the brother that owns the Kubota dealership. When asked about the charges against Alex, the brother said something to the extent of he didn't believe Alex did it, but anything is possible. It wasn't "he didn't do it" or "there's no way he did it".

Kinda makes you wonder if the tiniest seeds of doubt are there for at least some of the family.


Anyone watching this, or anyone who has studied the timeline and the facts that are out there has to at least have some doubt. There is no way anyone can look at what has been presented even this early and not think there is a real possibility. I’d find it hard pressed to find someone who didn’t think his story doesn’t align at all
 
Anyone watching this, or anyone who has studied the timeline and the facts that are out there has to at least have some doubt. There is no way anyone can look at what has been presented even this early and not think there is a real possibility. I’d find it hard pressed to find someone who didn’t think his story doesn’t align at all
Agree at this point in the trial. So far he conducted himself at the crime scene as believable that he didn’t do it.
 
No doubt a terrible situation. I feel bad for the family.

Read an interesting interview from The Island Packet in Hilton Head with the brother that owns the Kubota dealership. When asked about the charges against Alex, the brother said something to the extent of he didn't believe Alex did it, but anything is possible. It wasn't "he didn't do it" or "there's no way he did it".

Kinda makes you wonder if the tiniest seeds of doubt are there for at least some of the family.
Yea no matter how much u want to believe otherwise I imagine you atleast think about it a lot and doubt creeps in that yea he might have did it.
I imagine it’s even more difficult in a situation where your dad killed your mom and brother. It’s one thing if he killed a random person you didn’t know but to kill someone you loved makes it even tougher to handle
 
Yea no matter how much u want to believe otherwise I imagine you atleast think about it a lot and doubt creeps in that yea he might have did it.
I imagine it’s even more difficult in a situation where your dad killed your mom and brother. It’s one thing if he killed a random person you didn’t know but to kill someone you loved makes it even tougher to handle

more murders are not random than are
 
for the record, hard central part is not an attractive look...


On most people...

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I have tried a ton of criminal cases and 5 murder cases. The outcome of a case is often unpredictable. I’ve won them when I would have bet the ranch that I lost them, and I’ve lost them when I thought I had won them. What strikes me as bad for AM is he owned a gun like the one that killed Maggie and it has disappeared. The gun that killed Maggie had been previously shot on the property. GSR found on the raincoat taken to parents house. Alex at the scene about the time the killings took place. Poot says AM loved his family too much to do it. AM is a sociopath who only loved himself. He stole from his clients and from his partners. A man who will do that will also kill his family. In spite of all that it could easily be a hung jury. What I fail to understand is why the state didn’t first convict him of the financial crimes. Then they could cross examine him as a convicted felon if he testified.
Your financial crimes comment is spot on. He is clearly quilty of multiple financial crimes that would carry prison time. I believe it would be much easier for the “murder jury” to convict him if they knew he was already going to prison.
 
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Your financial crimes comment is something is spot on. He is clearly quilty of multiple financial crimes that would carry prison time. I believe it would be much easier for the “murder jury” to convict him if they knew he was already going to prison.
True,but imagine most know that he is headed there.

To play devil's advocate.....it would also be easier to vote innocent and hang the trial up if you knew he was gonna serve some time anyway for the financial crimes. Due to the number of offenses and the time period involved I assume that would be 20-25 years which will be most of his remaining life

Certainly, if he gets off on this I will feel better about it knowing he is not getting out from the financial mountain of charges

I hope he gets fried because I have no doubt he did it or watched it being done
 
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I think the family believes he is innocent….or at least that is what people in his corner would lead the public to believe.
I’m not convinced he did it. The state has serious problems with its time line. Taking the definition of reasonable doubt into it.
 
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