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⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️

So is Alex or is he not visible on the tictac video? If he is and he has on different clothes, that will be damning.
That is what a reporter with sources is saying. Video hasn’t been shown at trial yet, but I’m sure that is why on Friday they were asking all those questions about what Alex was wearing when he was interviewed and how clean and fresh they looked
 
I would think with miles of I-95 coming through Colleton County the sheriffs office ( deputies) have been involved in quite a few high profile cases ( not this big) and have had training and exposure to many high profile lawyers. Wrecks, drug trafficking up and down 95 as well as the ocean/river/waterway in Edisto area.
An ex-mayor of Colleton county town of Cottageville was killed by policeman…. Apparently a lot of the Charleston area “good ole boys” involved in drugs etc became big news not to long ago (93 million dollar settlement)
All this tells me Colleton county deputies will hold their own
Granted that I-95, as well as proximity to Charleston has an influence of "modernization" to Walterboro and CC.
I'm proud b/c I grew up and was educated 1-12 in the county.
 
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Alex was about to get all his financial deviances blown wide open because of two people:

1 - Paul bc of the boating accident
2 - his wife bc she knew he was shady

Those two people get shot after both told other people Alex wanted to see them. Alex has Paul’s phone when cops arrive and blames the shootings on the people out to get them bc of the boating accident.
 
Her best work was the uncovering of the connection between the Murdaughs and the Smith kid they found beaten to death on a country road. Also the housekeeper's death and the insurance payout. Once the legal stuff started she went straight into defense mode and has not looked back
Accurate observation and I agree with you. She did contribute to unraveling this ball of criminal yarn, but she doesn't own everything in the process. I lost respect for her when she decided she could try and convict, which is a jury/judge role and nor a media role. (Since Matney rankles when people call her a YouTube commenter because she self identies as a reporter, I'll hold her to her standard.)
 
Don't really understand everyone's fascination about this/these tragic events.

Sad, all around.
Will be decided exactly the same if no one outside of the courtroom ever talks about it or writes about it ever again.

It will be what it will be.

Hobbies, anyone?
 
Don't really understand everyone's fascination about this/these tragic events.

Sad, all around.
Will be decided exactly the same if no one outside of the courtroom ever talks about it or writes about it ever again.

It will be what it will be.

Hobbies, anyone?
I’m sure some folks would think some of
Your hobbies are stupid too.
 
The fascination is because Alex Murdaugh earned about a million a year and somehow, that wasn't enough. He had to steal from his clients, his law partners and his friends. Then on top of that he staged a phony murder suicide to commit insurance fraud. And he is the number one suspect for the murder of his wife and child. None of this is normal behavior especially for a guy with his financial and social standing. I have never heard of a story like it.
 
Don't really understand everyone's fascination about this/these tragic events.

Sad, all around.
Will be decided exactly the same if no one outside of the courtroom ever talks about it or writes about it ever again.

It will be what it will be.

Hobbies, anyone?
Some of your takes are pretty terrible. This is one of them.

If memory serves me well, you were the one that bitched and cried to have this thread moved to the back room.
 
The fascination is because Alex Murdaugh earned about a million a year and somehow, that wasn't enough. He had to steal from his clients, his law partners and his friends. Then on top of that he staged a phony murder suicide to commit insurance fraud. And he is the number one suspect for the murder of his wife and child. None of this is normal behavior especially for a guy with his financial and social standing. I have never heard of a story like it.
A million is probably short changing him by a good bit…
 
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I listened to last night's/this morning's "Cup of Justice" podcast. I thought it was surprisingly good. They offered some good insights into the case. You know where Mandy, Liz, and Eric are coming from -- and they are open about their perception and biases regarding AM.

And Liz didn't give one of her awful teeny-bopper screeds where she sounds like a gossiping middle schooler.
 
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Even the plaintiffs bar, save for a few ****ing assholes, know this Dram Shop Shit has gotten out of control.
On my side there is no one to even attempt to fight it. Hard to see how anything happens now even with willing and honest compromise

Companies gave up long ago. They just stopped writing here.

The Agent Associations no longer focus on lobbying for state level changes cause 1) They don't see it as possible to get anything done 2) Some new case law will be developed to undo it.
 
Poot must have been on a bender all weekend. After two days to prep for this morning, he is again totally disorganized.
He has not been impressive all trial. Has seemed unprepared for all his cross examinations. From my untrained eyes and ears he hasn't been concise in his line of questionining and it's hard to tell what point he's trying to make at various times.

Would love to hear some opinions from experienced lawyers on the board.
 
This is what a lot of the rocking and other mannerisms make think of. It was said he was into drugs so wonder if those are withdrawal type symptoms
I person rocking or fidgeting means they don't want to be where they are. They want to "move" and get away.
 
He has not been impressive all trial. Has seemed unprepared for all his cross examinations. From my untrained eyes and ears he hasn't been concise in his line of questionining and it's hard to tell what point he's trying to make at various times.

Would love to hear some opinions from experienced lawyers on the board.
I am not a lawyer. I did go to school and had classes with Harpootlian. Way back then he impressed me as a well named guy who thought he was always the smartest mind in the room and so had little need to prepare.

I think Dick has had a nice decades long career in the public eye in SC. Congratulations to him for that. It makes sense to me that he is the lawyer on TV representing one of the Palmetto State's sleaziest attorneys who is accused of murdering his wife and son.
 
Court tv has really sucked today. Seems like a pretty crucial day and they’re in and out so much. Is there another way to stream?
 
The fascination is because Alex Murdaugh earned about a million a year and somehow, that wasn't enough. He had to steal from his clients, his law partners and his friends. Then on top of that he staged a phony murder suicide to commit insurance fraud. And he is the number one suspect for the murder of his wife and child. None of this is normal behavior especially for a guy with his financial and social standing. I have never heard of a story like it.

yeah...the "Forge" bank account was more than interesting. If he doesn't go down for this, he will go down for that. I see no way he does not at least get charged and serve time for that

There is a special on YouTube TV that is free on the boat wreck and the FORGE bank account he was using
 
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POoot has sucked arse - his generation used to be able to spew and spew and have a jury rule his way

BUT - and I caution everyone, this awww shucks or fumbling and bumbling preformance can be a ploy to slow things down and then jurors stop listening - the damning stuff will be the filling of the time between phones locked and 911 call - get a jury misearable and hope they lose interest -

this is the only case where they MIGHT get an acquittal - and I mean MIGHT
 
He has not been impressive all trial. Has seemed unprepared for all his cross examinations. From my untrained eyes and ears he hasn't been concise in his line of questionining and it's hard to tell what point he's trying to make at various times.

Would love to hear some opinions from experienced lawyers on the board.
Acts like he knows he has a verdict in his pocket
 
I listened to last night's/this morning's "Cup of Justice" podcast. I thought it was surprisingly good. They offered some good insights into the case. You know where Mandy, Liz, and Eric are coming from -- and they are open about their perception and biases regarding AM.

And Liz didn't give one of her awful teeny-bopper screeds where she sounds like a gossiping middle schooler.
I wouldn’t say Mandy is open about her bias. She calls herself a reporter. Reporters are suppose to give facts not opinions and she openly leads you to believe she has already found him guilty. All this circumstantial evidence says otherwise. The state doesn’t have a smoking gun. Everything they have is circumstantial. That’s not a good recipe.
 
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I wouldn’t say Mandy is open about her bias. She calls herself a reporter. Reporters are suppose to give facts not opinions and she openly leads you to believe she has already found him guilty. All this circumstantial evidence says otherwise. The state doesn’t have a smoking gun. Everything they have is circumstantial. That’s not a good recipe.
Did you listen to the latest Cup of Justice episode? That is all I was referring to.

I found it surprisingly informative and useful and recommend it to anyone following the case closely.
 
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Poot must have been on a bender all weekend. After two days to prep for this morning, he is again totally disorganized.

Almost makes me wonder if it is not by design. A down the road hail marry is the lawyer was incompetent. When you can't when on the facts......
 
Almost makes me wonder if it is not by design. A down the road hail marry is the lawyer was incompetent. When you can't when on the facts......
Ineffective assistance of counsel is a very very difficult bar for the defendant to win with on appeal. It ain't happening in a case where AM is spending in the high six-figures on a huge defense team.
 
Ineffective assistance of counsel is a very very difficult bar for the defendant to win with on appeal. It ain't happening in a case where AM is spending in the high six-figures on a huge defense team.
Seems like it’s going to come down to that video of him at the kennels.

Right now I’m impartial. It’s likely him, but assuming he’s innocent, I’ll have to wait to hear more evidence. If he’s on that Snapchat minutes before and he said he wasn’t there then that’s it.

If not, I’m not sure how it’s going to end.
 
Almost makes me wonder if it is not by design. A down the road hail marry is the lawyer was incompetent. When you can't when on the facts......
Episode 17 GIF by The Simpsons
 
Don't really understand everyone's fascination about this/these tragic events.

Sad, all around.
Will be decided exactly the same if no one outside of the courtroom ever talks about it or writes about it ever again.

It will be what it will be.

Hobbies, anyone?
You’re like the fat guy who tells everyone to “get healthy” while he’s crushing his second piece of pecan pie at thanksgiving after he’s had three plates of dinner.

Do you see the irony in you coming into this thread to tell us we need hobbies to get us out of this thread?
 
Seems like it’s going to come down to that video of him at the kennels.

Right now I’m impartial. It’s likely him, but assuming he’s innocent, I’ll have to wait to hear more evidence. If he’s on that Snapchat minutes before and he said he wasn’t there then that’s it.

If not, I’m not sure how it’s going to end.
Yep, this case depends on that video. Was he there? Probably, from what we've read. Was he shown in the video and what was he wearing. I have read some on here say you could hear his voice, but was not shown. If that is true, I'm not sure what I'll think.
 
Seems like it’s going to come down to that video of him at the kennels.

Right now I’m impartial. It’s likely him, but assuming he’s innocent, I’ll have to wait to hear more evidence. If he’s on that Snapchat minutes before and he said he wasn’t there then that’s it.


If not, I’m not sure how it’s going to end.
In the pre trial motions, his attorneys have already acknowledged that Alex is in the video and that it is his voice
 
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I've spent way too much time listening to podcasts, YouTube and Reddit on this case. I thought Mandy did a good job at first but she's not an attorney, the evidence is introduced in court, and you'll get better legal insight from another content producer. Mandy lost objectivity months ago and has tried and convicted the accused well before the trial. She wants your money 💰 and is a self promoter.

If you want to have reporting credibility, you have to be more fact-based than opinion-based. Listen to her free content and then tune into attorney-based commentary for assessment of the trial.
Yea, the Matney podcast has jumped the shark - they really sound like a bunch of pissed off women who think SC is the only state where some people are privileged.

Only saving grace is Eric Bland’s commentary. I can only fathom how awful their paid “insider” content is - I’ve gathered that most of their subscribers are people that do not live in the state.
 
In the pre trial motions, his attorneys have already acknowledged that Alex is in the video and that it is his voice
Well, once that is presented in court im not sure you can defend it. Prior to knowing that, I felt like it would be tough to prove. After hearing that a video exists of him being there just minutes prior even though he still says he wasn't, my mind has changed.

But trying to be fair, I have not seen that yet and it hasn't been presented.
 
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We were talking about the video…

From experience i live in a place where sometimes a Snapchat video will not send when i press send. It sends when it gets enough signal…

Just knowing that, that can very easily be a possibility. Texts and conversations send with ease but it requires more signal for a video to send

Not sure what time the video was sent but let’s say it was sent at 8:49… that doesn’t mean it was taken at 8:49… Snapchat and the defense can easily prove that. I do not know if Snapchat can prove the video was at 8:49 or if it was taken at 7:49 but finally sent at 8:49?
 
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We were talking about the video…

From experience i live in a place where sometimes a Snapchat video will not send when i press send. It sends when it gets enough signal…

Just knowing that, that can very easily be a possibility. Texts and conversations send with ease but it requires more signal for a video to send

Not sure what time the video was sent but let’s say it was sent at 8:49… that doesn’t mean it was taken at 8:49… Snapchat and the defense can easily prove that. I do not know if Snapchat can prove the video was at 8:49 or if it was taken at 7:49 but finally sent at 8:49?
I agree. For instance, this past weekend I was in ATL and was touring Truist Field. I took video of it and posted it to FB and text it to my family. Both of them were not sent right away and in fact one of them wasn't uploaded until a few hours later. I had terrible signal, and it was taking forever to actually load and send.

Now, maybe they can tell specifically what time the video was taken and if so, that would tell. Otherwise, it's a grey area IMHO.
 
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I agree. For instance, this past weekend I was in ATL and was touring Truist Field. I took video of it and posted it to FB and text it to my family. Both of them were not sent right away and in fact one of them wasn't uploaded until a few hours later. I had terrible signal, and it was taking forever to actually load and send.

Now, maybe they can tell specifically what time the video was taken and if so, that would tell. Otherwise, it's a grey area IMHO.


Yea as soon as i heard about the video… the video just says he is there, he is claiming he is there, no one is saying when the video took place, just the time it was sent. Huge huge difference

Also people are acting like he could not have changed his clothes just because it’s 10 at night to be more comfortable.

1. How do people know what he had on when the video was taken without seeing him?
2. If it was taken at earlier, people change their clothes… it’s possible.


But to your point… you can easily have conversations constantly up to the point of “locked forever”, Paul might not had enough service for those videos to send.
 
Yea as soon as i heard about the video… the video just says he is there, he is claiming he is there, no one is saying when the video took place, just the time it was sent. Huge huge difference

Also people are acting like he could not have changed his clothes just because it’s 10 at night to be more comfortable.

1. How do people know what he had on when the video was taken without seeing him?
2. If it was taken at earlier, people change their clothes… it’s possible.


But to your point… you can easily have conversations constantly up to the point of “locked forever”, Paul might not had enough service for those videos to send.
You don’t think the state has thought of that? If they present the video, they’re going to be prepared to ask how often Paul sent videos and when they were received. They’re not going to throw a theory out there and do everything they can to eliminate reasonable doubt.
 
Yea as soon as i heard about the video… the video just says he is there, he is claiming he is there, no one is saying when the video took place, just the time it was sent. Huge huge difference

Also people are acting like he could not have changed his clothes just because it’s 10 at night to be more comfortable.

1. How do people know what he had on when the video was taken without seeing him?
2. If it was taken at earlier, people change their clothes… it’s possible.


But to your point… you can easily have conversations constantly up to the point of “locked forever”, Paul might not had enough service for those videos to send.

I think until the video is entered into evidence the thing that has me about the clothes situation is the fact he said he tried to turn Paul and attempted to take his pulse but no blood on him. The captain from Colleton County stated it would not be possible to do either without getting blood on him

That’s my hang up along with the fact the close were completely dry yet he was sweating a lot and looked fresh out of a dryer
 
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You don’t think the state has thought of that? If they present the video, they’re going to be prepared to ask how often Paul sent videos and when they were received. They’re not going to throw a theory out there and do everything they can to eliminate reasonable doubt.
Based merely on the timeline of events that Alex gave in the interview the night of the murders, the tictok video would have had to be taken between 8 and 8:45.
 
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