Well i hoped they did lol
I was sharing this because everyone just assumes it was taken and sent at 8:49 but none of us actually know. That’s big
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I was sharing this because everyone just assumes it was taken and sent at 8:49 but none of us actually know. That’s big
The issue is he said he was not there when he clearly was. Why lie if you have nothing to hide?
Exactly. If they show a video of Alex at the kennels his team will be scrambling. Is it just Paul and Alex? Can you see if it’s approaching sunset? Is Maggie in it too? Clothes that Alex is wearing?
Anyone doing forensics on the phone will be able to tell to the second when videos were made and sent.
There is a video that has the voices of Paul, Maggie, and Alec at the kennels that was supposedly taken at 8:44. The defense has has not disputed that all three were there, and have said it exonerates AM because they were having a “convivial family conversation”. The murders supposedly occurred five minutes after the video and AM’s car was cranked and left the property at 9:06. Of course, in the immediate aftermath of the murders AM said he had not been at the kennels, which the video suggests otherwise.
Very sad situation. I know the family wants closure to this horrific ordeal one way or another.
Tricky dick is not doing anything in front of that jury that isn’t by design. People need to understand that. Good lawyers know how to manipulate a jury with more than words. The jury is watching his every move. His lack of interest is by design.
Yes, This is correct and to me one of the most damning evidence. That video, timeline and when all of a sudden Paul's and Maggie's phone are no longer used or moving says that Alex had to be at the property while the murders occurred. Even if Alex tried to claim he left the kennels right after that video and wend back to he main house where he then left in about 15 minutes. How could he been at the main house and not heard 7 gun shots going off at the kennels if it wasn't him. Another point that hasn't been discussed is that Alex texted Maggie and got her to meet him at the house that night in order for her to go with him to see his father in the hospital. sources have said she replied that she would meet him directly at the hospital as she was in Edisto. Alex got her to go the main house in order to ride with him. Then how does Alex explain leaving Maggie at kennels and then go to see his mom instead when she has just drove an hour to go and see Alex father who was about to die?
There is a 2nd video that hasn't been shown yet according to sources that is from a little earlier that night in which Alex is seen riding around with Paul and He is wearing different clothes.
This was explained away by someone, that his dad went into the hospital and his mom got nervous when dad was not around.
The other odd thing is who takes a nap at 8:30 at night????
Any reasonable person would also question this, but according to my wife's behavior, this is normal and acceptable.
Paul was in mid text conversation, and made the video as a direct response to Rogan Gibson about the dog.
Videos/photos on iPhones have metadata associated with the image. Time date. And possibly location.
Videos/photos on iPhones have metadata associated with the image. Time date. And possibly location.
If they have Paul's phone, it probably has a time stamp when it was created and also a GPS location of exactly where they were.
My big question is does the video show Alex and what he was wearing.
Edit: According to other posters, the 7:44 video does not show what Alex was wearing.
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I was going to say, anyone with a wife would assume the same. I cant tell you the last time my 38 year old wife saw 9pm.
What kind of car did AM supposedly leave in? I’ve never signed up for any sort of subscription, but my 2018 GMC sends me emails and texts when I have a tire 2lbs below GM’s threshold. Have to think AM had a vehicle that would track ignition at the very least.
Remember he was on drugs
Depends. It is more likely that the date/time that SnapChat uses is the time that the video is taken, not the time that it was delivered to snapchat. Same thing with photos. The timestamp and location is when and where the picture was taken, not when and where you were when you upload it to Apple, Prime, or some other service.
I wouldn’t put to much thought into that, I take naps all time of the day and night.
NBC reported that the phone expert testified that someone tried to unlock Maggie’s iPhone using her face after the “time of death”.
That’s not exactly what he said. He said there was a display after the last time the phone was locked and when the display happened it failed to unlock.
That is poor reporting based on testimony I heard.
The part that I found interesting was that the phone registered 59 steps at 8:53 but none after. If I was the defense, I would use this to help my case. I don't own an iPhone but I'm assuming it would still log steps if someone else had the phone. I would argue that he would have had to taken more than 59 steps to to dispose of the guns along with cleaning himself up before disposing of it. Just a theory that could be way off base.
Probably 59 steps to the car.
I would tend to agree but it wouldn't stop me from trying to argue otherwise to cause doubt.
They will have both the metadata off the photo and when it was posted to snap chat. They will have both. Snapchat will have all that in their records which could be gotten. Hell the phone probably logs it
I know what you mean. However, It’s not unlikely that someone could eat dinner and know that they’re about to go to their mothers house and doze off in the recliner just before doing so.
I don’t think he did it. I think he hired someone to do it and they were ambushed at the kennels. He heard the shots and then waited to call. He never saw it and wasn’t there but knew it was going to happen. He just knew that he would have to take the fall and weather out the storm but there wouldn’t be any evidence linking him directly.
That guy had enough money to have it done. It certainly doesn’t cost millions to do that. Organized crime has done a lot worse for a lot less in monetary value. Maybe that’s where the banking fraud and stuff comes from later.
That’s my new theory.
Would maggie’s phone show itself en route to where it was dumped on the side of the road? Has that been discussed?
You’re exactly right.
It’s essentially like someone killed then and took her phone and dumped it. While taking her phone they looked at the screen and the that caused the camera to document that in the hardware. Doesn’t mean they were trying to unlock it, just means they grabbed it and looked at it.
But that’s no revelation. One would assume they know that’s what happened. Especially if it wasn’t him.
Recommend looking at Avery Wilks’ Twitter if you are busy with work and need a play by play catch up from the day. The forensic cell phone data and testimony from Dove is wild.
I was on a 6 day trial in the fall for a violent crime. We listened to testimony on cell phone forensics, but this is next level.
Why did Yemassee sheriff get $5000 check from Alex a week after murders? They are buddies and who better to help. Why is he not on witness list?
Your theory goes down the toilet if he has blood splatter on his clothes, although that evidence has it's own doubts. Expert initially said the was no blood spatter, then changed and said there was blood spatter. Plus there is not enough of his shirt left for someone else to test.
If I were sitting on the jury and only know what evidence has been presented so far, I would be wide open, but knowing other evidence mentioned in this thread, I think he's guilty. But we'll see how that goes in court. Would not surprise me if there is a hung jury.
I assumed Alex took her phone and tried to unlock it by pointing it at her face and she was dead with her eyes closed.
I wonder if the device saved that image. Was it her face? Was it Alex's? I have no idea if it saves the image or not.
The phone will show usage data on when it was being operated regardless of the time the video was sent. It will also show when the video was actually taken.
During the 2nd police interview, Alex claimed only Maggie was at the kennel. He did say Paul could have possibly been down there but stated he was back at the house "taking a nap" when the killings occurred. He intentionally left himself out of the kennel scenario for a reason.
