⚖️ MURDAUGH MURDERS & TRIAL THREAD ⚖️
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You better believe they have their own experts lined up to poke holes all in the prosecutions case. Everything from collection of evidence to phone records. It will be interesting.
Absolutely.
An estimated 925 people are wrongfully convicted a year. That means over 11k jurors mess up in the biggest way possible, per year. Reading through this thread you can see why we should be very strict about who we allow to determine our fate.
That's a lot of morons putting someone in jail who doesn't belong there, annually. You have to be extremely cautious to ensure you get it right. Again, I'm far more fearful of locking up an innocent man than I am letting a guilty one walk.
I happen to know the guy. Yes, I’m 💯 sure it was his voice. Not even the defense is refuting that
They have been a lot theories/information put forth by people that are either not true or have not been presented by the prosecution yet. One is that Maggie had talked to a divorce attorney - if true that will surely be presented by the prosecution because so far the defense has presented that all was well in the family (birthday video at Edisto etc.)
Another was Maggie wanted to meet Alec at the hospital and didn't want to go the Moselle. If true why has that not been presented? I would ask the question if she went to Moselle to meet with Alec to ride to the hospital why didn't she leave with Alec when he supposedly left to go to the hospital?
Also, I don't think they have presented evidence that he had to have changed clothes between the "riding around looking at trees" video and 8:50. I think the next video that shows Alec was from the police body cams after 10pm.
Another was Maggie wanted to meet Alec at the hospital and didn't want to go the Moselle. If true why has that not been presented? I would ask the question if she went to Moselle to meet with Alec to ride to the hospital why didn't she leave with Alec when he supposedly left to go to the hospital?
Also, I don't think they have presented evidence that he had to have changed clothes between the "riding around looking at trees" video and 8:50. I think the next video that shows Alec was from the police body cams after 10pm.
Everyone seems to forget about the drug addiction. Addicts are selfish, unreasonable, and revert to uncharacteristic versions of themselves. The group stating that a father wouldn't do X or Y, haven't been around addiction. The reality is that anything is possible when one is hooked on dem pills.
The power of the media. That's my point.
People act as I there's all of this evidence and it's so concrete. Why has it not been presented in court? If and when it does, my opinion will likely change.
Dude, Im as guilty as anyone in this line of thinking. I followed up until he got arrested. All of the rumors and "evidence" said this dude was guilty as can be. Now, Im watching the trial and I'm wondering where the evidence is?
Why doesn't Mandy get up there and just tell us what really happened that night and put all of this to rest?
100 percent! And a question for you, you do realize that no one, not even the defense, is refuting that? Everyone knows it was him in the video.
I don’t have to be a lawyer, at my home as you say, to know that.
When a jury is seated doesn't the judge ask the jury to not form an opinion until evidence, summation and charge are presented, the defendant is not guilty until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and not discuss the evidence/case until everything is completed?
A long way to go.
Heck - I thought OJ was guilty.
What I think really has nothing to do with the verdict.
A long way to go.
Heck - I thought OJ was guilty.
What I think really has nothing to do with the verdict.
While true, I just don't know how they deal with Alex being at the scene of the crime shortly before the murders after he said he was never there. That video and testimony from Rogan may be the death knell to his defense. Griffin had nothing on cross examination. HE asked a bunch of questions of Rogan but none did anything to discredit his testimony.
Anyone can go into their phone and delete call logs. As simple as swiping
The info is still recoverable via the phone company
You guys do realize that the prosecution is only about 1/3 way through their case.
My point is years ago I was told high enough people up with cell companies could make data disappear. I’ve never needed it but it’s still interesting. Based on what I heard the data from cell company said it was received by her phone but his phone didn’t show it but I was doing multiple things at once so could have easily heard incorrectly
There was a whole period of time where all the activity from his phone was missing. There was no way he colluded with the cell phone company to make it disappears. I think he deleted and it did not show up on the call log.
Let me say this. I'm not following the trail like you folks. This trail is titillating, but has very little impact on me. I do find the discussion in the tread entertaining. I think both sides on here are making some good points. I'll add two cents from what I've read.
1. The world isn't a Tom Clancy novel or Netflix series with tons of twists and turns and nefarious characters. Criminals may be crafty, but at their heart, they are stupid. When you hear of a four legged animal that gallops you should think "horse" not "zebra". The most common explanation is the most likely explanation.
2. Saying his motive to kill them was because his wife and son, "knew all his skeletons and they'd come out in Paul's trail or the divorce," does not make sense. You think killing them won't make law enforcement dig deeper into his dealings? You think he's below the radar now? His business dealing will be discovered regardless.
3. Cell phones don't lie. They are a goldmine of information. Mine sits in a special box outside the building I work in because of it.
4. I think there's no doubt he did it.
5. I think someone else was likely there too. That person took away the guns and clothes and I bet pulled one of the triggers.
6. That said, at the end of the day, has the prosecution proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt he pulled the trigger OR commissioned someone to pull the trigger? Just because he was there, doesn't mean he did either thing.
Fun thread.
1. The world isn't a Tom Clancy novel or Netflix series with tons of twists and turns and nefarious characters. Criminals may be crafty, but at their heart, they are stupid. When you hear of a four legged animal that gallops you should think "horse" not "zebra". The most common explanation is the most likely explanation.
2. Saying his motive to kill them was because his wife and son, "knew all his skeletons and they'd come out in Paul's trail or the divorce," does not make sense. You think killing them won't make law enforcement dig deeper into his dealings? You think he's below the radar now? His business dealing will be discovered regardless.
3. Cell phones don't lie. They are a goldmine of information. Mine sits in a special box outside the building I work in because of it.
4. I think there's no doubt he did it.
5. I think someone else was likely there too. That person took away the guns and clothes and I bet pulled one of the triggers.
6. That said, at the end of the day, has the prosecution proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt he pulled the trigger OR commissioned someone to pull the trigger? Just because he was there, doesn't mean he did either thing.
Fun thread.
I have kept up since the first post way back when. For a period of time especially in september of 2021 a lot of talk about Alex having a girlfriend (mistress) but so far I have not read anything about a mistress rather what a close knit family they were.
Have I missed something?
Have I missed something?
Ok. You got him! He did it. You know his voice and hes on that video.
I didn’t mean to come across as trying to convince you otherwise. That’s my bad.
Fitz fascinated me at first as well as the fitness/yoga instructor in Simpsonville ...Thornblade
finally got to be to much of the same over and over so I am sure I did miss.
Still don't know
Why are you questioning that it's his voice, when HIS OWN DEFENSE TEAM is not questioning it? Are you Buster Murdaugh?
No you have not. I've seen no evidence and heard of none regarding a mistress. I have been following pretty closely.
Yeah, im the guy sitting in the court room with red hair texting on TI. Damn, you got me.
I just missed that part that his defense admitted it was him. That's on me.
Alex wasn't laughing Paul was. Alex actually looked very serious in the video.
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This is disturbing… but it tells a lot about Alex and who he is…
The defense does let have to prove a dang thing. That is the states burden. They just have to save as much doubt as they can. You will hear slot of what ifs and alternate scenarios. It doesn’t take an hour to change clothes. When did they ask to look for said clothes?
Why so defensive? It’s like your badge of honor to set the standard of “reasonable doubt” the highest?
I really don’t get it. They established that it is his voice in the video. They’ve placed him there, at the kennels, 4 mins before Maggie and Paul’s phones went silent.
Im trying to get where im missing something
The investigation was a bit shoddy because they gave Alex TOO MUCH leeway and should have searched his houses, and subpeonaed all kinds of records right away. The things they didn't do would have likely given them more evidence that Alex is guilty. This defense attorney is suggesting that a poor investigation means they focused on Alex to the exclusion of other possibilities but that has not at all been shown at the trial.
Possibly, but before that appeal is ultimately heard/decided, his financial crimes will likely be tried. After hearing the law firm CFO testify today and watching a bit of Laffitte's trial, I don't see anyway he is not found guilty of all the charges. Heck, he's already admitted to some of them. Any way you slice it, he's likely spending the rest of his life in prison. I suppose he can squander whatever money he may have left on appellate attorneys but I wouldn't really see the point.
I was thinking about this the other night. He was confronted by the firm earlier that day. He knew his entire world was about to come crashing down. I've wondered if this was going to be a murder/suicide type deal but he simply did not have the stones to kill himself after he killed Paul and Maggie.
wut? I admitted i missed it, not you. The defensive comment really comes out in your badge of honor comment. That's pretty defensive, no? You're all over it my man. Again, read this in the most non defensive way....
I missed where his defense admitted that was him in that audio at the kennell. My apologies.
Talk about badge of honor, lol.
It was a boating accident. A bad accident, greatly caused by the fact Paul was wasted. But just like a DUI that killed someone he would be charged with some sort of manslaughter, not murder.
Agreed especially with the botched suicide. However why not buster to?
Yes even though Rogan was clearly trying to not throw Alex under the bus while still answering honestly. Jim f-ed up big time twice yesterday. First, by entering a worthless video of a birthday party for Alex. He was trying to show a jolly, happy family but in that video is Chris Wilson. He was involved with a missing money issue the firm asked him about the day of the murders. Now that will be admissible to show motive/context. Jim also asked Rogan if he could imagine Alex doing something like this. Now the prosecutors can ask witnesses if they could imagine Alex would have done several of the many many crimes he's either charged or admitted to.
