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I'm more interested in trying to understand why anyone would tie a dead man to a chair..... Seems a little 'overkill'
Really do not think anyone has said that til the poster earlier. on previous page.......the theory early in this thread of why he was tied to a chair is that he was killed execution style after being tied to the chair. But being tied to the chair has not been 100% confirmed
 
Are those quotes from the police?
According to SLED, the case is being investigated as a double homicide.

If that is indeed true, the likely scenario is one is murdered and the other died from a third party.

That would still explain no arrests and no danger to the public.
 
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Mallory’s mother had them killed. Strong inside rumor.
I have trouble believing that.
One scenario requires zero planning.
Impulsive behavior by one and reactionary behavior by the other.

The “hit” scenario requires a level of evil most people cannot rise to.

First, you have to find an accomplice. That’s no easy task.

Then a level of sinister, nefarious and downright evil planning that is hard to believe.

We’ll see. Maybe.
 
Here's my wild speculation of what happened based on nothing else than watching Zero Zero Zero, The Godfather, The Zodiac Killer, and Mindhunter plus my awful imagination:

A two-person team is watching the 4147 Moselle Road property. The target is Paul M. They wait until twilight ends - 8:56:43 pm and cause a ruckus by the dog kennels to get Paul out of the house. They shoot the dogs, Paul comes running, and one of them shoots him with a shotgun.

Why use a shotgun? So he can't have an open casket. See Godfather when Vito takes Sonny to Amerigo Bonasera's funeral home.

The poor mother, hearing shots fired, races out of the house to investigate carrying a firearm. Being a mama bear, she starts popping off shots at the perps. Backup guy, carrying an AR, has no choice but to shoot the mom. Why? they don't want to get shot, and they need at least 22 minutes to get to 95. Then they drove south on 95, into GA to cross jurisdictions, and they disposed of the guns in chimneys in an Italian neighborhood during the Feast of San Gennaro.

Another crime podcast guess - Mallory Beach's family is not involved. However, I would look at all civil cases against the family that have been settled. Someone felt that justice needed to be served vigilante style.
I like your version, work in the "execution style" , "multiple gunshots" and I can sign off on it!
 
This morning, coroner confirmed time of death of both as between 9PM and 930PM for both victims as well as multiple gunshot wounds for both victims. This is post-autopsy findings. He wouldn't give any other information.
 
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I like your version, work in the "execution style" , "multiple gunshots" and I can sign off on it!
OK. It breaks down like this:

Son rage kills mother, shooting her more than once. One of the local workers hears the commotion and gunshots and grabs his shotgun and runs to the scene. (Satisfies mysterious farmhand rumor.)

He finds the kid sitting in a chair in hysterics with the gun in his lap. (Satisfies the "tied to a chair" rumor.) Farmhand yells at the kid: "What have you done?" Kid picks up the gun. Farmhand yells "Put the gun down. It'll be OK. Just put the gun down."

Kid sweeps the gun up and points it at the farmhand who pulls the trigger on his shotgun twice. (Satisfies the multiple gunshots and "execution style" rumor.)

Note: Still could only be one shot. Turkey season just ended. Maybe he was shot with 41 pellets of copper plated #4's. Could look like two shots. The coroner should be able to tell the difference, though.
 
Facts: Bodies found together, execution style, multiple gunshot wounds (That sounds professional to me)
Motive: revenge for Beach girl, revenge for prosecutorial role.
Rumors: Tied to a chair, dogs killed too

Questions: (my thoughts and speculations)
- Why would mother be killed? (Maybe she saw their faces)
- Why would dad and other brother be left alive? (Other brother worked for family law firm)
- Does SLED know of credible threats to the family, And that's why they can say there is no current threat to citizens?
- Why two different guns? (Two shots from a shot gun, execution style wouldn't leave much, that sounds like it was personal toward whoever took the two shells. Most likely Paul), (also sounds professional. Long range and short range)

Feel free to add your own questions.
 
OK. It breaks down like this:

Son rage kills mother, shooting her more than once. One of the local workers hears the commotion and gunshots and grabs his shotgun and runs to the scene. (Satisfies mysterious farmhand rumor.)

He finds the kid sitting in a chair in hysterics with the gun in his lap. (Satisfies the "tied to a chair" rumor.) Farmhand yells at the kid: "What have you done?" Kid picks up the gun. Farmhand yells "Put the gun down. It'll be OK. Just put the gun down."

Kid sweeps the gun up and points it at the farmhand who pulls the trigger on his shotgun twice. (Satisfies the multiple gunshots and "execution style" rumor.)

Note: Still could only be one shot. Turkey season just ended. Maybe he was shot with 41 pellets of copper plated #4's. Could look like two shots. The coroner should be able to tell the difference, though.
I doubt anybody is gonna pick up their gun and run toward two random shots fired, especially when it is on a 1,000+ acre "hunting" compound.

A family like that with a property like that has more security at the gate than just a "Keep Out" sign nailed to a tree.
 
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I doubt anybody is gonna pick up their gun and run toward two random shots fired, especially when it is on a 1,000+ acre "hunting" compound.

A family like that with a property like that has more security at the gate than just a "Keep Out" sign nailed to a tree.
Fire a gun in my front yard and see if I don't show up with one of my own.
I doubt anybody is gonna pick up their gun and run toward two random shots fired, especially when it is on a 1,000+ acre "hunting" compound.

A family like that with a property like that has more security at the gate than just a "Keep Out" sign nailed to a tree.
Maybe a little screaming mixed in. Maybe a "help, help me" or two. Somebody comes running.
 
To further my speculation ...

Thing is, this is not the "one stop light, SC" police department here. They're not just going to talk to a few people for 15 minutes and then proclaim "no charges will be filed." This is SLED and they are damn well aware of who the family is.

SLED is going to want to see every piece of surveillance, every cell phone, every text message, every email, etc. that they can get their hands on. They are going to want to leave no stone unturned. They will want to be confident that the shooter was acting under no direction but his own and defending his life.

Also, SLED is making a determination on another person's life. If, for example, the son did not pose a threat but was sitting in a chair sobbing and the gun was on the ground, the farmhand may not be justified. In fact, he would likely face serious charges.
 
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But here is the real hell of it (my personal conspiracy):

There is a group of lawyers that are thinking ahead.

They know that the best thing for the legacy of the family is an unsolved assassination.

Do they have the clout to make that a reality? I don't know.

I do know a bunch of lawyers could make life miserable at SLED. They probably have demanded to see every report since day one. They will want to control the narrative until they decide what they like and they may be in a position and have the power to do it.
 
This is what FITZ is saying. If you believe them, SLED knows what happened and will have a story that makes sense soon.

“Meanwhile, SLED agents are reportedly exploring “every possible angle” related to the shootings – even though I am reliably informed that they believe they know what transpired.

“This is all going to make sense very soon,” one well-placed law enforcement source told me.
 
The “hit” scenario requires a level of evil most people cannot rise to.

First, you have to find an accomplice. That’s no easy task.

Then a level of sinister, nefarious and downright evil planning that is hard to believe.
Well, that family has gone about two years stewing over what they may perceive is a lack of justice regarding the death of their daughter. A lot can build up in two years.

And Its Hampton and Colleton counties. I mean, you can find somebody to do about anything for a few thousand bucks if you know where to look.

Having said that, I don't think we are really certain about much of anything other than they died on the property between 9 and 930 of multiple gunshot wounds. Again, unless its been in an LOE's statement, press release or direct quote, I would not count on it and even then they don't have an obligation to be completely candid and can shade details if it serves the interest of the investigation.
 
things ive learned this last week;:::

from tMB, its now a “dog kinnil” or dog “pin”
richard ”buster” murdaugh translates to “dick buster” and hes reportedly gay


from here, my third wifes cousins aunts son used to be a farmhand there so anything he says about the shootings ill post here as truth
unless the Clintons are in volved, theres no murder/suicide with each being shot multipole times
 
things ive learned this last week;:::

from tMB, its now a “dog kinnil” or dog “pin”
richard ”buster” murdaugh translates to “dick buster” and hes reportedly gay


from here, my third wifes cousins aunts son used to be a farmhand there so anything he says about the shootings ill post here as truth
unless the Clintons are in volved, theres no murder/suicide with each being shot multipole times
keep up. trash compactor or ice machine
 
But here is the real hell of it (my personal conspiracy):

There is a group of lawyers that are thinking ahead.

They know that the best thing for the legacy of the family is an unsolved assassination.

Do they have the clout to make that a reality? I don't know.

I do know a bunch of lawyers could make life miserable at SLED. They probably have demanded to see every report since day one. They will want to control the narrative until they decide what they like and they may be in a position and have the power to do it.
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Ok, tough guy, settle down... unless you live on a 1,000+ acre compound I don't think these two correlate.
Not a tough guy. Just stating the obvious.

A commotion, gunshots, maybe dogs raising hell, maybe some screaming and yelling - anybody hears that, they probably come running, possibly armed. That’s all.
 
Well, that family has gone about two years stewing over what they may perceive is a lack of justice regarding the death of their daughter. A lot can build up in two years.

And Its Hampton and Colleton counties. I mean, you can find somebody to do about anything for a few thousand bucks if you know where to look.

Having said that, I don't think we are really certain about much of anything other than they died on the property between 9 and 930 of multiple gunshot wounds. Again, unless its been in an LOE's statement, press release or direct quote, I would not count on it and even then they don't have an obligation to be completely candid and can shade details if it serves the interest of the investigation.
If it was a hit more likely Grandpa and Daddy then the girls family

They have the means and the connects to get it done without of towners that were long gone within an hour after the deed
 
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Thanks to everyone involved in this thread for the nearly endless entertainment. It came in extra handy with my being laid up in the hospital for 5 days this past week. The time also allowed my mind to drift a bit and I've wondered if maybe with the patriarch knowing his death was imminent, would he want to rewrite the family legacy? Could he have orchestrated the destruction of the really really bad apple in the bunch (Paul) in order for the family name to be restored somewhat? Don't know these folks but from this thread, they all seem like the types to care about the family name and its place in history. Getting rid of Paul would ensure no future shame brought on the family. Not sure why Maggie would be destroyed other than collateral damage or to throw investigators off the trail. Who knows!

Anyway, just a thought to ponder, and again, MUCH appreciation for this thread y'all.

tallulah
 
Thanks to everyone involved in this thread for the nearly endless entertainment. It came in extra handy with my being laid up in the hospital for 5 days this past week. The time also allowed my mind to drift a bit and I've wondered if maybe with the patriarch knowing his death was imminent, would he want to rewrite the family legacy? Could he have orchestrated the destruction of the really really bad apple in the bunch (Paul) in order for the family name to be restored somewhat? Don't know these folks but from this thread, they all seem like the types to care about the family name and its place in history. Getting rid of Paul would ensure no future shame brought on the family. Not sure why Maggie would be destroyed other than collateral damage or to throw investigators off the trail. Who knows!

Anyway, just a thought to ponder, and again, MUCH appreciation for this thread y'all.

tallulah
Get well soon
 
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