What's going on in India now with regards to covid? All I heard for a couple months was about this variant in India but once it got to the US, I can't find any info on India.
I will be shocked if this season goes off as planned
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We have known that certain pre-existing conditions, like you listed, heighten the risk of Covid for well over a year. If there are people that don’t know this fact, then they are choosing to get their info from the wrong sources.
Almost everyone knows doctors, nurses, pharmacists, trusted friends that they can talk to about the vaccine. If you are choosing not to get it in August 2021, then you can’t blame “misinformation”.
The only reason this thing has ever been politicized is because we have allowed ourselves to look to politicians, cable news commentators, internet bloggers and governmental organizations for answers instead of talking to our local experts.
Almost the entire medical field is currently begging for us to get vaccinated for our own health and community immunity, but many ignore them. What motives could they have other than care for their fellow man?
Previously almost all the very sick Covid patients I've seen have been elderly. But recently I've had very sick people in their 40s and 50s that I didn't have before. The sickest one I have right now is 41.
Where is the data from the 1st paragraph being pulled from?
Genuinely curious. Thanks!
Interesting. Would you characterize these individuals as generally healthy or would they fit within the scope of one or more of the previously mentioned underlying conditions that would cause them to be more susceptible?
97% patient of hospitalized covid patients in the Prisma system are non vaccinated as of today
I've heard there is also a huge shortage of nurses because hospitals are mandating that they get vaccinated and are forced to quit or fired if they don't. I heard that was as big of an issue or bigger than the lack of beds.
You say you’re not an alarmist yet everything about your post says otherwise…
Set aside 50% of the beds for non-vaccinated covid cases and let them fight over the lack of beds.
People that made the right choice and got vaccinated shouldn’t have to suffer because of other peoples decisions. That’s on them.
People that made the right choice and got vaccinated shouldn’t have to suffer because of other peoples decisions. That’s on them.
You can say stuff that’s alarming, but not be an alarmist.
I know several younger nurses who are not vaccinated and have not been threatened or forced in either fashion. Not sure where that’s an issue and I’m not saying I don’t believe you, just that it’s not widespread. Certainly their work conditions are terrible and nurses have been leaving the field en masse, so that part is definitely true.
My BIL and SIL are anti covid vaccine. They caught covid this/last week. Hate it for them but….they are smart enough to know better.
Massive drop in new cases after the peak. Still there and circulating but case numbers are way down.
They probably got it from you though…
Anyway, I hope they feel better quickly & just think, their natural immunity against Covid will be better than any half assed vaccine Pfizer can throw at them…
he wasnt being an alarmist...if he what he said alarmed you, then take that for it's worth...but nothing could change your mind so it's pointless
agreed...i got vaccinated and went about my way
Nah man. Joe and Hunter are China's titty babies....nothing gonna happen there.
Health insurance companies will soon refuse to pay in full (or at all) for hospitalizations due to covid in the un-vaccinated. It's coming.
And I havent been vaccinated and havent had so much as a sniffle in the last couple years. Never had a flu shot either...never had the flu. Crazy aint it?
@adgjunior I agree with everything you posted until the final paragraph. In my local area (in the healthcare arena) there is growing pessimism towards the vaccine. Why? Because just like the CDC revealed today in a tv interview, the efficacy is at 53% (August 1st data) compared to 75% efficacy back in March.
There have been several "heated" conversations at the nurses desk at the Mrs. hospital in regards to the vaccine. Apparently it got really heated a few times and calmer heads had to intervene. Here's the problem, we have local frontline people who are starting to see through more than the numbers. They're starting to look at who actually has it......people's ages....whether they smoke or not, weight issues. And I completely agree with you, most people SHOULD understand this but it NEVER is discussed. So my question is WHY? If we are basically throwing out HIPA rules then why can't ALL the data be released??
If we do that then I guarantee you more people that are not vaccinated would actually take the vaccine. Right now they only hear numbers of people who have had it and that's about it. That tells people nothing really.
And to @DaboVenables yes, some nurses are not wanting to take the vaccine and are threatening to leave if it is MANDATED. My wife took the vaccine when it was suggested (by her hospital) months ago but is now even questioning why. The reason? She is now seeing the efficacy numbers and also seeing vaccinated people being carriers as well as still testing positive for Covid.
She only works a couple of days a week but just this morning she texted me shortly after her shift started and was already mad (lol) at her work load for the day. I asked her how many of her patients were overweight and here's her response after she made her rounds: "100%... no joke!"
I'm just glad Dr Gottlieb (former head of CDC) said last Monday that we were entering the final wave of this. That's something everyone should be able to agree on.
Fundamentally, I agree with you.
However, the point of this thread is to show how devastated our hospital system is right now due to COVID. That potentially affects all of us. If I get in a bad wreck tomorrow and can’t get proper care due to an overrun ICU or ER, then it could cost me my life. We are all one accident or incident from being held hostage to the COVID overflow.
Additionally, all the numbers being shared in these types of threads point to a huge percentage of hospitalizations being unvaccinated individuals. It just makes sense that if most Americans were vaccinated we wouldn’t be in this dire situation right now - we would have the availability to care for all of the “normal” stuff.
Looking at the UK chart for an indicator, we still have a little bit further before we peak ~200K/day and drop quickly. What is concerning is that the UK chart leveled off and started climbing again about halfway down from the Delta peak. What is that about?
UK Cases
US Cases - You need to scroll way down for the chart
I echo OP's concerns. I'd say that the chances of this impacting the UGA game are growing fast. And like you said, the next 2 weeks will be interesting.
Well/ the good news is that there wasn’t a single case of influenza reported last year so maybe we killed the flu!
I’ve noticed something recently…
Unvaccinated people don’t typically have harsh words for the sick…usually thoughts & prayers…
But this gloating (almost as if it brings you joy) amongst the vaccinated that is happening when an unvaccinated person gets sick with Covid is a growing trend & it’s pretty disgusting…
Problem is the unvaxxed are laboratories for new mutations, some of which may be worse than delta.
It's not gloating. It's frustration.
I know that you feel that you are being cute, but these types of comments not only aren't factual, but they are a large part of the problem. There are multiple Clemson fan doctors on this thread alone who are working on the front lines and they are telling you that the unvaccinated is what they are seeing in the ICU. This should be all anyone needs to hear.
They don't have any reason to exaggerate or mislead you.
Seems like all the gov't officials are given monoclonal antibody treatments.
Is this not standard of care? Is it expensive? Do you have to ask for it?
It's extreme frustration. I have tried to have rational discussions with unvaccinated folks including people who I work with. Now I'm watching them have close family members get sucks and they are all shocked and begging for prayers.
I see by your response you are passionate about making sure everyone follows your protocol, but I am already vaccinated. I’m sure there were a few cases of influenza around, but we didn’t see the first one at my childrens’ schools when in past years they have shut down for a week due to widespread flu spread.
