That may have been the charge but if you have decent insurance it should have gotten beaten down a good bit.
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Well e had no choice anyway....NBA required itI don’t see where my simple rhetorical question on an Internet message board had any sort of impact against the young man or his family. What a terrible situation for them to be dealing with, glad it wasn’t worse
EDIT: I’m not trying to be an ass @Lot4tiger , but since you asked
LeBron James says he got the COVID vaccine despite initial skepticism: "I felt like it was best suited for not only me but my family"
"I felt like it was best suited for not only me but for my family and my friends," James said Tuesday.www.cbsnews.com
So everyone of us have “always trusted the experts until Covid”?
And because we aren’t scientists we can’t question the so called “experts”?
2023 is a wild place
If you go back to before trump was president, the anti vaccine movement was out of California, Washington, and Oregon with crazy liberal naturalist.
Columbus, OH had the most recent measles outbreak due to Somali Muslims not vaccinating their children. Maybe that’s what you mean when you say faith based moms…
I've never seen a HS that required an EKG to play. My point was that pre covid these episodes were common enough for people to have this discussion. This was for both HS and college. Nothing mandatory on a wide scale came from those discussions. This was about the situation not being new due to vacinne side effects. I have no doubts that the vaccine can cause these things. Everyone just irresponsibility saying it is the problem. They don't even have info on whether the person in question was vaccinated or not. They just say it anyway. That's my issue.
EKG wouldn’t show anything. EKG’s are not expensive. The player would need an echocardiogram which is very expensive
What's the difference? I just googled EKG and it says electrocardiogram is the process of recording an electrocardiogram. Google also said and EKG & ECG are the same thing. Not discounting you since I think you are a Dr.
Electrocardiography
Medical test
Description
Electrocardiography is the process of producing an electrocardiogram, a recording of the heart's electrical activity through repeated cardiac cycles. It is an electrogram of the heart which is a graph of voltage versus time of the electrical activity of the heart using electrodes placed on the skin.
EKG can be used to determine at STEMI. An acute heart attack. EKG with stress test can “maybe” pick up blockages. And EKG is something you see on tv with cardiac monitors with the old paddles.
An echo to check for hypertrophic cardiomyopathy is more like an ultrasound of the heart.
Oh and not a doctor. I wish. A paramedic for 28 years.
I would be willing to guess you didn’t hear them say it would stop the spread either right?
Heart disease is racist-I’m sure of it. all jokes aside...glad Bronny will be okay. NO parent ever wants to get a phone call like that.
You don't have to be an ass. Just have a discussion.
They always acted as if it would lead to stopping the spreading of it. That's what I alluded to in my last post regarding hiding in the closet. The vaccine was always a part of it. Look I don't and didn't trust the vacinne myself. I'm merely discussing never hearing anyone say if you get vacinnated you won't get covid when the entire discussion was if you get it you'll most likely live and have less of a horrible experience IF vaccinated compared to not vaccinated, period. I remember still not trusting that or anything else they said at the time. I also remember people with other political motives on either side just saying whatever supported their political belief.
That was funny. It needed to be said tho. You have an African American male with a heart issue and people want to pretend this wasn't already an issue in that community. I got his point. Could the vacinne have something to do with it? Sure. But we don't know if he was vaccinated and it is already a problem pre vacinne in the community we're discussing. Relevant info. This supports @lot4reason for mentioning it.
It was a legit question no need to throw out insults. Most people depending on their political leanings heard what they wanted to hear.
Dang. Don't wish that fear on any parent. Hope the kid is alright and it's not career ending.
Bronny stable, out of ICU following cardiac arrest
USC freshman Bronny James is in stable condition and out of the ICU after suffering a cardiac arrest.www.espn.com
What if Covid itself is actually the culprit?
Like how could you truly distinguish if it’s the vax or the actual disease?
(I’m not a pro vaxer guy, but all these young people also had Covid.)
Solid thread on this on Twitter, or X, whatever it's called today.
Lol, Fauci and Pfizer execs got filthy rich off this deal and have immunity from the government. There was zero incentive to keep this thing from harming anyone.
Plus there are plenty of doctors who have come out against the MRNA shot.
It very well could be. Which would also mean that the vaccine would therefore potentially have an impact too, no?
2021 sure looks higher than every year since 06
I’d also be interested in seeing more than 20 years of data. Gimme this graph dating back to 1980
It’s also just athletes. What about all people within that age? I’m genuinely curious
It's far more likely based on the data that it is Covid causing this. There will likely be studies on this coming when we have 5+ years of data. Anything before that is more flawed. Also, this isn't unheard of with viruses. Many can cause a clots, strokes, and heart attacks after infection recovery. What will be very interesting is those with long Covid who eventually have heart attacks.
I had long Covid that led to a heart attack 5 months post Covid. That was with lots of heart screenings due to my congenital heart valve defect. I went from a 30% to 40% blockage (within normal ranges for my age at the time) and ended up with a 99% blockage in my LAD (Widowmaker) in 6 months. The doctors were extremely surprised and put my heart Cath off for 2 days for more emergent cases. Then boom, I need a stent. I was crazy lucky because I escaped with no permanent heart damage, which is almost as rare. This was at 42 years of age.
Also, for those who want to know or will ask, this was before vaccinations. My wife is in the medical field and Covid flew through their office of 80 in November of 2020. We got it the last week. My case wasn't awful either. No hospitalization and my O2 never dropped below 92%. I did have a elevated temperature for 23 days straight so I wouldn't exactly call it mild. However, the long Covid sucked as I could barely do anything without getting tired.
Not necessarily due to the way the mRNA vaccines work. It's not like they are putting an inactive virus in your system. Maybe with the viral vector vaccines, which most used the adenovirus to as the vector to attach Covid to.
CDC Wonder has all that information on it. Personally I don't have time to do all that research and graph it for you. Read the entire thread as he explains all the years are still pretty close. 2021 was by far our biggest year of contracting Covid as well. The Delta and Omicron surges were exponentially higher than anything we saw in 2020.
That's weird. I keep recalling him not answering those questions saying his family's status was private. I didn't see where he finally revealed their status.
2006 was the H5N1 bird flu year, so that could explain why it's higher. Some viruses are hell on the arteries.
Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences, I am sorry for what you have gone through but glad you are doing okay. Many weren’t as lucky. Indeed, we will know much more in 5-10-20 years
Nah it wasn't a legit question. A legit question would've asked a question. What do you think about or what are your thoughts on this or that.
Honestly not trying to come down on you harshly here, because you are being very civil in this thread…. but it was very widely said by many government & medical officials that the vaccine would keep you from getting it at all. Maybe that’s what they believed at the time, but it was definitely repeated en masse.
You keep saying things like “I’ve never heard of schools requiring that” or “I don’t remember hearing anybody say that.” Maybe you just don’t know or didn’t hear or don’t remember 🤷🏻♂️
No doubt. Could be a combo. I have no idea and neither does anyone else.
It’s just insincere to say “the vax is causing this” just like it’s insincere to say “Covid is causing this”.
Could be all of the above. Could be something else. Could be just a perception.
I agree that’s a possibility. I’ve been trying to find some studies on that very question. However I don’t think there is much interest to find out. At least by those with the resources to do a proper study.
It may not be the Jab but the fact that you claim you know the obvious answer is just as bad cause none of us have a clue and everyone has the right to ask questions without get talked down to by people who don’t know jack shit either
I'm glad you notice that I don't make claims to know factually. It's a discussion where I'm sharing my experiences and my perspective. I make that clear by how I make statements because I truly don't know. Your last sentence is the reason I say what I say how I say it.
Me: I have never heard of a high school requiring an actual EKG to participate in sports leaves room for you to share where you've seen it. Me recalling from memory what was said about covid leaves room for you to say what you heard during those times. We can compare and contrast our experiences. The media is a tricky thing and depending on which outlet you're listening to we can hear vastly different things.
And I don't claim to know which story is true because I don't trust any of what they tell us. As far as I'm concerned when I try and figure who is not telling the truth, I'm just guessing.
"For people like you and me, who are not and will never be in a position to truly know the truth,"
Whoa man.
That's a mouthful
So, how are we all supposed to live our lives?
What do we take as guidance?
If you don't know the truth, what are you to base decisions on?
