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New republican lies in advance of the midterms.

all presidents lie about pointless shit like this. hell trump used to brag about being the reason AA unemployment was at record lows when all you had to do is look at the YBY chart and see how it had been decreasing every year since 2010.

all presidents are liars, especially about things that they think will make their administration look better to voters

When Trump does it they are lies. When a democrat does it they are called "Verbal fumbles."

You can't make this shit up.
 
all presidents lie about pointless shit like this. hell trump used to brag about being the reason AA unemployment was at record lows when all you had to do is look at the YBY chart and see how it had been decreasing every year since 2010.

all presidents are liars, especially about things that they think will make their administration look better to voters

yea i agree they all are. so then why complain about the other side doing it?

though in this case i don't even agree it would be considered a lie (speaking to original topic not your example - i'll assume you're correct but ue metrics in general have been so bastardized with adjustments to improve optics i apply little value in any headline numbers. real info is in lfpr, what job types are being added/removed, wage growth - and what is driving changes numerator or denominator etc)
 
yea i agree they all are. so then why complain about the other side doing it?

though in this case i don't even agree it would be considered a lie (speaking to original topic not your example - i'll assume you're correct but ue metrics in general have been so bastardized with adjustments to improve optics i apply little value in any headline numbers. real info is in lfpr, what job types are being added/removed, wage growth - and what is driving changes numerator or denominator etc)
no argument here
When Trump does it they are lies. When a democrat does it they are called "Verbal fumbles."

You can't make this shit up.
where did i say any of this?
 
I work for an oil company delivering diesel and heating oil, which is dyed diesel. We have been told by our supplier to keep a 5 day supply of diesel on hand due to an expected shortage.
 
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yea i agree they all are. so then why complain about the other side doing it?

though in this case i don't even agree it would be considered a lie (speaking to original topic not your example - i'll assume you're correct but ue metrics in general have been so bastardized with adjustments to improve optics i apply little value in any headline numbers. real info is in lfpr, what job types are being added/removed, wage growth - and what is driving changes numerator or denominator etc)

Tucker said we are going to run out of diesel fuel. He said the country is going to shut down. He said it was because of Biden's religious war in Ukraine. THESE ARE LIES. I know how else to spell it out for you. Here is a direct quote:

Farm equipment will shut down. There will be no deliveries because there'll be no trucks. There'll be no diesel generators and then inevitably, our economy will crash because everything runs on diesel fuel—not on solar panels, not on wind farms, on diesel fuel. Diesel is not a negotiable commodity. You have to have diesel.
 
You didn't say it.

NBC or ABC had a headline today noting Bidens "Verbal Fumbles" when he lied (or more likely mispoke i.e. dementia) about his son dying in Iraq. Among other untruths told.

Just example 1,004,535,656 of the mainstream media double standard.
those are verbal ****ups though - not lies. i just read the article you mentioned from the NYT; he said the war in iraq - excuse me the war in ukraine - was driving increased fuel costs. then he did the same ****up about Beau dying in iraq that he's made before bc his brain is banana pudding

i don't see those as lies - just ****ups that a geriatric with brain rot says
 
those are verbal ****ups though - not lies. i just read the article you mentioned from the NYT; he said the war in iraq - excuse me the war in ukraine - was driving increased fuel costs. then he did the same ****up about Beau dying in iraq that he's made before bc his brain is banana pudding

i don't see those as lies - just ****ups that a geriatric with brain rot says
Exactly. You don't see them as lies and I actually understand that. I don't think Joe was lying, I think he is just incompetent. Like, literal lee incompetent. But he does this all the time and i don't think he is fit for office. The smartest move he made was picking someone for VP whom is more incompetent than himself.

The point of my post is to point out the millionth example of the double standard when covering Trump. Trump mispoke several times, but they were always called lies and never "verbal fumbles".

The press hatred for Trump is irrational. He was much more competent than Biden, and yes I realize that is not saying a whole lot.
 
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I really hate the use of the word untruth. Let's call it what it is. These types of things are lies. Just like on Twitter today the administration was bragging about the biggest increase ever in social security payments when the reality is that's something that is on autopilot and had nothing to do with the administration. This song and dance was on over and over again and these are just lies. They lie all the time. All politicians lie to be sure but many of these lies should be called into account so that they don't continue. That the media continues to let them get away with this crap is ridiculous.

News flash: if the media held everybody accountable and actually was a defender of the truth not an agenda then we would have better parties on both sides. America would be a much better place.
 
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Tucker said we are going to run out of diesel fuel. He said the country is going to shut down. He said it was because of Biden's religious war in Ukraine. THESE ARE LIES. I know how else to spell it out for you. Here is a direct quote:

Farm equipment will shut down. There will be no deliveries because there'll be no trucks. There'll be no diesel generators and then inevitably, our economy will crash because everything runs on diesel fuel—not on solar panels, not on wind farms, on diesel fuel. Diesel is not a negotiable commodity. You have to have diesel.

joe biden said he met the guy who invented insulin and his son died in iraq and that's only yesterdays highlights. or if we're going with talking heads there's basically everything rachel maddow said on covid as lies. a ton of what she and msnbc/cnn reported on russiagate and hunter laptop were lies. flat out fabricated stories they just reported with 0 solid info or research because someone somewhere they came across was willing to say something that fit their narrative. same for the ny times, wapo etc. should i go through joy reids highlights?

so yea, lies help no one. but complaining about this given the gravity of whats gone on with dems is insanity.

besides, not sure how you'd label this an outright lie if you're familiar with diesel supply and it's significance to how goods end up in stores. it is an indisputable fact we are dangerously low on supply on the east coast. diesel is what the country is completely reliant on for transport of consumer goods. ipso facto running out of it would in fact result in empty store shelves and have people panicking. it would crash the economy fairly quickly if we were unable to source new supply. in reality we'll likely be able to get by, i think, and not see any prolonged shortages of goods. so the basis is not a lie, we are truly dependent on diesel for goods transport. if we ran out we'd figure something out...well...but it would absolutely be disastrous in the short term if it happened and there's definitely a non-zero chance of it occurring on the east coast at the moment.
 
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Exactly. You don't see them as lies and I actually understand that. I don't think Joe was lying, I think he is just incompetent. Like, literal lee incompetent. But he does this all the time and i don't think he is fit for office. The smartest move he made was picking someone for VP whom is more incompetent than himself.

The point of my post is to point out the millionth example of the double standard when covering Trump. Trump mispoke several times, but they were always called lies and never "verbal fumbles".

The press hatred for Trump is irrational. He was much more competent than Biden, and yes I realize that is not saying a whole lot.

Lolwut? From day one he literally called them the enemy of the people. Hardly irrational.
 
Lolwut? From day one he literally called them the enemy of the people. Hardly irrational.
Well they are the enemy of the people. When someone constantly lies to you and participated in a frame job against you ...... thats pretty much your enemy. Don't see a circumstance where that could be considered a friend or ally.
 
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Exactly. You don't see them as lies and I actually understand that. I don't think Joe was lying, I think he is just incompetent. Like, literal lee incompetent. But he does this all the time and i don't think he is fit for office. The smartest move he made was picking someone for VP whom is more incompetent than himself.

The point of my post is to point out the millionth example of the double standard when covering Trump. Trump mispoke several times, but they were always called lies and never "verbal fumbles".

The press hatred for Trump is irrational. He was much more competent than Biden, and yes I realize that is not saying a whole lot.
Dude, you MAGAs try so hard to absolve him of his sedition so you won't have to do any self reflection about your slavish devotion to that cult leader. But no matter what, you can't make it the same because it just isn't.

Biden is too damn old and he says stupid shit from time to time that may be untrue but there's no way you can compare that to the number of lies Trump told/still tells, nor the sinister nature of his lies. He has perpetuated the biggest lie for two years now, without apology, and we've all seen the destruction that's caused. And he's not a damn bit sorry for it.

He hasn't said a word to Officer Sicknick's family and he also hasn't apologized to any of the 147 officers that were injured on Jan. 6. However, he has complained about Ashley Babbitt being shot and even suggested he would pardon all the insurrectionists if he got re-elected. This is a horrible human being on a scale like we've never seen so don't give me this lame bullshit about Biden lying in an attempt to make them the same. It's disgusting that you try to provide cover for a man who should be in fvcking Leavenworth right now.
 
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Exactly. You don't see them as lies and I actually understand that. I don't think Joe was lying, I think he is just incompetent. Like, literal lee incompetent. But he does this all the time and i don't think he is fit for office. The smartest move he made was picking someone for VP whom is more incompetent than himself.

The point of my post is to point out the millionth example of the double standard when covering Trump. Trump mispoke several times, but they were always called lies and never "verbal fumbles".

The press hatred for Trump is irrational. He was much more competent than Biden, and yes I realize that is not saying a whole lot.
If Trump wasn't such a jerk and kept his mouth shut and just did his job he'd still be president. Perhaps that's why the press supposedly hates him.
 
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Well they are the enemy of the people. When someone constantly lies to you and participated in a frame job against you ...... thats pretty much your enemy. Don't see a circumstance where that could be considered a friend or ally.
How easily you forget that every time he opened his mouth he was saying something slanderous or untrue, but yes it's the press' fault for reporting on him ACCURATELY. LMAO
 
those are verbal ****ups though - not lies. i just read the article you mentioned from the NYT; he said the war in iraq - excuse me the war in ukraine - was driving increased fuel costs. then he did the same ****up about Beau dying in iraq that he's made before bc his brain is banana pudding

i don't see those as lies - just ****ups that a geriatric with brain rot says
How about $5 dollar gas price when he took office, or him taking credit for increase in ss checks?
Of course, since his party certainly has the majority of responsibility for inflation, I guess it is not a complete lie that he is responsible for the increase in ss checks, lol.
 
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Dude, you MAGAs try so hard to absolve him of his sedition so you won't have to do any self reflection about your slavish devotion to that cult leader. But no matter what, you can't make it the same because it just isn't.

Biden is too damn old and he says stupid shit from time to time that may be untrue but there's no way you can compare that to the number of lies Trump told/still tells, nor the sinister nature of his lies. He has perpetuated the biggest lie for two years now, without apology, and we've all seen the destruction that's caused. And he's not a damn bit sorry for it.

He hasn't said a word to Officer Sicknick's family and he also hasn't apologized to any of the 147 officers that were injured on Jan. 6. However, he has complained about Ashley Babbitt being shot and even suggested he would pardon all the insurrectionists if he got re-elected. This is a horrible human being on a scale like we've never seen so don't give me this lame bullshit about Biden lying in an attempt to make them the same. It's disgusting that you try to provide cover for a man who should be in fvcking Leavenworth right now.
Have you heard biden or the dem party apologies for the hundreds of officers injured during dem riots and protests or the murders committed. Two dems convicted of seven politically motivated murders in the last week or so. I missed the admins comments on those. Could you please recap those for me?
 
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Along with other countries that currently have inflation problems probably because of the covid thing, our situation would be the same no matter who was in office.
 
How easily you forget that every time he opened his mouth he was saying something slanderous or untrue, but yes it's the press' fault for reporting on him ACCURATELY. LMAO
And just today, liberals are attacking a rare example of press for reporting on Bidens lies and gaffs. They are literally telling the press not to report it even if true.
 
There is a diesel shortage and there will likely be stations that can't get supply. Also, prices are going to spike before end of year (almost $6 in NJ already) . We are drastically below stored supply levels, not seen since 2008......presently we have 25 days of reserve supply. That's a pretty scary number given how much of the supply chain, farming, construction etc relies on diesel fuel. Easiest way to tell how bad it is......watch related futures pricing as those guys (futures traders) have way more data and information than the average news reader from satellite imagery, transit data, average cost by location, weather data effecting delivery, cost changes in delivery etc etc.

So while the Conservative media are twisting the knife a bit, we are on the brink of a larger crisis that could result in total lack of fuel in places and insanely high prices which will obviously negatively impact inflation not to mention put pressure on farmers who are already flat margin wise.

In summary, your post wasn't the own you thought it was.

Btw - whataboutism is nothing more than one side telling you they would be happy to hear your points once you acknowledge similar infractions from your own side. The reason people hate it is it's an effective reminder that you can't throw stones in a glass house. It will also continue to get worse as the nation continues to divide and move further away form the center.
if that was the case, then why aren't the futures markets spiking for diesel?
 
Have you heard biden or the dem party apologies for the hundreds of officers injured during dem riots and protests or the murders committed. Two dems convicted of seven politically motivated murders in the last week or so. I missed the admins comments on those. Could you please recap those for me?


Here you go with your cornball logic again.

Remind me of the persistent, sinister lie that Biden told(who wasn't the President) that caused those riots.

These riots were in response to police killings of black men, not by lies told by a sociopathic President of the United States because he has a fragile ego. Stop being stupid.
 
Here you go with your cornball logic again.

Remind me of the persistent, sinister lie that Biden told(who wasn't the President) that caused those riots.

These riots were in response to police killings of black men, not by lies told by a sociopathic President of the United States because he has a fragile ego. Stop being stupid.
How about the persistent lie of Russian collusion, and the implied or even explicitly stated lie that black people killed by police is racially motivated.
The only thing NOT reported about george floyd was that there was ZERO evidence it had anything to do with race. There was not one single story ever found or written about that the cop ever showed any racist behavior. However, I bet you a million dollars if you ask the average moron in your party if race played a part in his death or was part of the reason for the riots and protests, the vast majority would say it was driving factor in how they view what happened.
 
Tucker said we are going to run out of diesel fuel. He said the country is going to shut down. He said it was because of Biden's religious war in Ukraine. THESE ARE LIES. I know how else to spell it out for you. Here is a direct quote:

Farm equipment will shut down. There will be no deliveries because there'll be no trucks. There'll be no diesel generators and then inevitably, our economy will crash because everything runs on diesel fuel—not on solar panels, not on wind farms, on diesel fuel. Diesel is not a negotiable commodity. You have to have diesel.
when did you start listening to Tucker?
Dude, you've come so undone, you're now tuning into Tucker Carlson to get your talking points.
You should really look into pulling for the Gamecocks, then your football and political views would go hand in hand!
 
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How about the persistent lie of Russian collusion, and the implied or even explicitly stated lie that black people killed by police is racially motivated.
The only thing NOT reported about george floyd was that there was ZERO evidence it had anything to do with race. There was not one single story ever found or written about that the cop ever showed any racist behavior. However, I bet you a million dollars if you ask the average moron in your party if race played a part in his death or was part of the reason for the riots and protests, the vast majority would say it was driving factor in how they view what happened.
Let me see if I have this straight. It doesn't matter that Trump didn't apologize to the family of the policeman he was responsible for killing or the 147 officers who were injured because Rod Rosenstein kicked off a Russia investigation and black people that got killed weren't dead because of racism and therefore both of these things are the same. Do I have that right?
 
Along with other countries that currently have inflation problems probably because of the covid thing, our situation would be the same no matter who was in office.
The whole “inflation is everywhere “ thinking is bullshit. It all begins and ends with the most powerful economy in the world.
 
Let me see if I have this straight. It doesn't matter that Trump didn't apologize to the family of the policeman he was responsible for killing or the 147 officers who were injured because Rod Rosenstein kicked off a Russia investigation and black people that got killed weren't dead because of racism and therefore both of these things are the same. Do I have that right?
No two things are the same. I certainly think trump should have expressed his sympathy for those injured on Jan 6. However, if you think trump is directly responsible for that then dems(which included their media lapdogs) suggesting that trump is colluding with a foreign nation against america with the support of republicans certainly bear responsibility for a lot of the protest and riots over the last 10-12 yrs.
Also, your party pushing the ridiculous narrative that cops are killing black people due to racism is certainly largely responsible for the frequency and resulting degree of destruction, violence, assault, and murder.
 
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We are going to run out if diesel fuel! The country is gong to come to a grinding halt. It is all joe Biden’s fault.

this whole narrative is total bullshit. We are not running out of diesel.

I work in the supply chain field and yes there is a shortage. Right now we are bringing in product but it doesnt keep up with the demand so its only a matter of time unless something is done. At current levels places on the east coast will runout around the start of dec. East coast will be most effected by any shortage. They need to take action to avoid a sever crisis, but time is running out. If they open the Keystone it would help to the tune of over 800k barrels a day which would help. But a long term plan is needed. Winter is here so much of the refining is heating oils atm not diesel.
 
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No two things are the same. I certainly think trump should have expressed his sympathy for those injured on Jan 6. However, if you think trump is directly responsible for that then dems(which included their media lapdogs) suggesting that trump is colluding with a foreign nation against america with the support of republicans certainly bear responsibility for a lot of the protest and riots over the last 10-12 yrs.
Also, your party pushing the ridiculous narrative that cops are killing black people due to racism is certainly largely responsible for the frequency and resulting degree of destruction, violence, assault, and murder.
THIS MAKES NO SENSE. Stop being weird.
 
when did you start listening to Tucker?
Dude, you've come so undone, you're now tuning into Tucker Carlson to get your talking points.
You should really look into pulling for the Gamecocks, then your football and political views would go hand in hand!

Of all the lame responses I have gotten in the almost 20 years that I have been on this site, this takes the cake.

The next time you feel like replying to me, do me a favor... find a five year old and ask them "is this a sick burn?". When they give you this look...

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Just move on and don't waste my mutha****ing thing
 
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joe biden said he met the guy who invented insulin and his son died in iraq and that's only yesterdays highlights. or if we're going with talking heads there's basically everything rachel maddow said on covid as lies. a ton of what she and msnbc/cnn reported on russiagate and hunter laptop were lies. flat out fabricated stories they just reported with 0 solid info or research because someone somewhere they came across was willing to say something that fit their narrative. same for the ny times, wapo etc. should i go through joy reids highlights?

so yea, lies help no one. but complaining about this given the gravity of whats gone on with dems is insanity.

besides, not sure how you'd label this an outright lie if you're familiar with diesel supply and it's significance to how goods end up in stores. it is an indisputable fact we are dangerously low on supply on the east coast. diesel is what the country is completely reliant on for transport of consumer goods. ipso facto running out of it would in fact result in empty store shelves and have people panicking. it would crash the economy fairly quickly if we were unable to source new supply. in reality we'll likely be able to get by, i think, and not see any prolonged shortages of goods. so the basis is not a lie, we are truly dependent on diesel for goods transport. if we ran out we'd figure something out...well...but it would absolutely be disastrous in the short term if it happened and there's definitely a non-zero chance of it occurring on the east coast at the moment.


 
I work in the supply chain field and yes there is a shortage. Right now we are bring in product but it doesnt keep up with the demand so it only a matter of time unless something is done. At current levels places on the east coast will runout around the start of dec. East coast will be most effected by any shortage. They need to take action to avoid a sever crisis, but time is running out. If they open the Keystone it would help to the tune of over 800k barrels a day which would help. But a long term plan is needed. Winter is here so much of the refining is heating oils atm not diesel.

Keystone pipeline. LOL.
 
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Along with other countries that currently have inflation problems probably because of the covid thing, our situation would be the same no matter who was in office.
Nope. All the money that was pumped into the economy by the dems would not have been if Trump was potus and Trump would have kept US energy output at the top not to mention other good stuff that would have happened in a second Trump term. The energy factor and less money pumped into the economy would have kept inflation down to normal levels.
 
if that was the case, then why aren't the futures markets spiking for diesel?
Down over the last few days but still up for the month, the 3 month and the 52 week.

1 month - 8%
3 month - 5.5%
52 week - 42%

 
Down over the last few days but still up for the month, the 3 month and the 52 week.

1 month - 8%
3 month - 5.5%
52 week - 42%

Nothing to see here .... Democrats in January "nobody could have seen this coming"
 
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The whole “inflation is everywhere “ thinking is bullshit. It all begins and ends with the most powerful economy in the world.
So if Trump was prez. there would be no inflation in the US and gas/diesel prices would be low?? And FWIW, an economy that relies heavily on China.
 
So if Trump was prez. there would be no inflation in the US and gas/diesel prices would be low?? And FWIW, an economy that relies heavily on China.
He would at aleast be in tune with the fact that inflation is a huge problem and that something needs to be done about it. Biden is clueless and shows no acuity that its a problem much less something needs to be done about it.

Trump also would have us energy independent and wouldn't be bowing to the green energy folks.

In short, YES, the economy would be much better with lower inflation under Trump. Undoubtedly.

Instead we have a President who appoints people based on their social "diversity" instead of the best man for the job. He lies, er verbal fumbles, so much that its unclear if he is cognitively capable of understanding the problems facing the every day citizen.

Voters will realize the wool was pulled over their eyes in the 2020 election and will deliver a massive Red Wave in about 5 days. They have had enough of this garbage.
 
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