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Yep. WW3 level shit. If Ukraine gets froggy on the Iranians, Russia jumps in on the Iranian side, it’s gonna get uglier.This Iranian conflict is on the verge of becoming a global sh*tstorm. Looking real scary right now. Really hoping the situation deescalates soon.
Iran Air Flight 655As bad as this sounds, that plane going down the way it did probably did quite a bit to hurt Iran's global case. How can they be trusted or present a logical case for war when they shot down a civilian plane? How can you allow them to have nuclear weapons if this can happen so easily. They are a lose cannon and the world just saw another example of it.
This Iranian conflict is on the verge of becoming a global sh*tstorm. Looking real scary right now. Really hoping the situation deescalates soon.
Glad to see someone else with common sense.I think things are already deescalating. Iran and the US are done for now IMO. Iran needs to now re-calculate. That strike was a good kill on both a High Value and High Payoff Target and a very, very, personal message to the Iranian leadership. Iranian leadership I believe, knows that any activities by proxies at this time might just generate an even more painful response. I also think that the Iranian Republican Guards will have a bit of an internal power struggle to keep themselves occupied for the near term.
The airliner shootdown will not amount to much other than make things worse internationally for Iran. Ukraine doesn't have the ability to project power into the ME, and it truly was an accident (caused by incompetent people using older Russian Air Defense systems).
This Iranian conflict is on the verge of becoming a global sh*tstorm. Looking real scary right now. Really hoping the situation deescalates soon.
Iran Air Flight 655
Malaysia Airlines Flight 17
Just saying
People keep saying things like "World War 3" and "global sh*tstorm," but who are Iran's allies in this conflict? They don't have any. While nobody wants war, let's not be hyperbolic about everything. If anything, Iran's token conventional response yesterday indicates that they're mostly going to take their medicine. What should be concerning as things go on is whether they do their usual thing of engaging terrorist proxies because they know they'd lose a conventional conflict.
What are you saying, exactly?
I don't worry about Iran much. They've been slowly painting themselves into a corner politically since W. I cannot believe they thought either A...they could hide it, or B....they overestimated world sentiment and that no one would do anything. That includes the US.People keep saying things like "World War 3" and "global sh*tstorm," but who are Iran's allies in this conflict? They don't have any. While nobody wants war, let's not be hyperbolic about everything. If anything, Iran's token conventional response yesterday indicates that they're mostly going to take their medicine. What should be concerning as things go on is whether they do their usual thing of engaging terrorist proxies because they know they'd lose a conventional conflict.
just means more Ass 'Murica kicks.Yep. WW3 level shit. If Ukraine gets froggy on the Iranians, Russia jumps in on the Iranian side, it’s gonna get uglier.
Iran, China and Russia just did joint naval exercises in December. https://www.ft.com/content/3d5a4cf0-288f-11ea-9a4f-963f0ec7e134
What are you saying, exactly?
I don't worry about Iran much. They've been slowly painting themselves into a corner politically since W. I cannot believe they thought either A...they could hide it, or B....they overestimated world sentiment and that no one would do anything. That includes the US.
Right. All 3 are just itching for a protracted shooting war against a coalition of the west’s democracies among which are the greatest military force in human history and the pillars of their economies. And, lets define joint naval exercises. Because 2 of those 3 have total, antiquated garbage for naval assets. What they do have would be rendered virtually useless. Sooo, the way that should read is that Iran and Russia watched on while China conducted naval exercises.
What I'm saying exactly is that the United States and Russia have also mistakenly shot down commercial aircraft so it clearly doesn't preclude you from having nukes. This is not to say that I think Iran should have nuclear weapons to be even more clear.
Are China and Russia really allied with Iran in any meaningful way? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt they've agreed to help defend Iran.
This is correct. Iran does commerce and has substantial relationships with Russia and China. If anything major ever happened to Iran, we may hear from these countries.Are China and Russia really allied with Iran in any meaningful way? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt they've agreed to help defend Iran.
6+5+5=17
In the Bible the number 17 symbolizes "overcoming the enemy" and "complete victory."
ITT, I learned that math is hard.
Somebody will blame it on Trump for killing the guy which got them on edge which caused them to be trigger happy and accidentally blast an airliner. Go figure.As bad as this sounds, that plane going down the way it did probably did quite a bit to hurt Iran's global case. How can they be trusted or present a logical case for war when they shot down a civilian plane? How can you allow them to have nuclear weapons if this can happen so easily. They are a lose cannon and the world just saw another example of it.
I’m surprised the Dems haven’t been on CNN yet to spin it this way....Somebody will blame it on Trump for killing the guy which got them on edge which caused them to be trigger happy and accidentally blast an airliner. Go figure.
We accidentally shot down an Iranian passenger jet in 1988 due to similar tensions leading to our ship feeling threatened.
If Ukraine takes exception to their civilian plane being shot down, all the sudden the Russians have a much better reason to side with Iran.People keep saying things like "World War 3" and "global sh*tstorm," but who are Iran's allies in this conflict? They don't have any. While nobody wants war, let's not be hyperbolic about everything. If anything, Iran's token conventional response yesterday indicates that they're mostly going to take their medicine. What should be concerning as things go on is whether they do their usual thing of engaging terrorist proxies because they know they'd lose a conventional conflict.
Care to explain how Israel did this?
It's headed that way.I’m surprised the Dems haven’t been on CNN yet to spin it this way....
Maybe they have though, I haven’t seen the latest news yet...
This is correct. Iran does commerce and has substantial relationships with Russia and China. If anything major ever happened to Iran, we may hear from these countries.
Mayor Pete is the catcher.It's headed that way.
Yep. WW3 level shit. If Ukraine gets froggy on the Iranians, Russia jumps in on the Iranian side, it’s gonna get uglier.
It's headed that way.