It has absolutely nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the abuse of the system, agencies, media etc. They literally changed laws in order to kick him off the ballot. That is election interference and the opposite of a democracy. This is a great summary of how broken it is....If he did the same shit that Trump has done, he would have never been on the ballot in the first place because Democrats wouldn't support him. But if he did the things that Trump did, we'd kick him off the ballot before the states ever got around to it.
Why is that ONE MAN more important to you than our country is what I want to know?
You know exactly what happens. They are going to riot, loot, disrupt and attack just like they did in 2020.What’s going to happen when the SCOTUS rules that there was no insurrection and turns the lefts whole narrative upside down? Going to be some egg on the face and their narrative will continue collapsing. Even the voters who weren’t paying attention before will now see their corrupt ways.
The only way for SCOTUS to overturn this is to say there was NO insurrection (according to lieu)
@dpic73
You know exactly what happens. They are going to riot, loot, disrupt and attack just like they did in 2020.
I've already told you that's not what they'll be ruling on but you're not accepting it. It won't be a question of whether it was an insurrection or not, it will focus on whether the amendment specifically applies to Trump since the language is vague. States have the right to make rulings like that so they won't overturn it per se, but will likely rule that he's not an officer of the United States. There are those that argue he doesn't qualify as an officer and others that say he absolutely does because the Constitution repeatedly references the Office of the President.What’s going to happen when the SCOTUS rules that there was no insurrection and turns the lefts whole narrative upside down? Going to be some egg on the face and their narrative will continue collapsing. Even the voters who weren’t paying attention before will now see their corrupt ways.
The only way for SCOTUS to overturn this is to say there was NO insurrection (according to lieu)
@dpic73
Why do you only focus on the response to Trump's treachery but never what he did to earn that response? Just a typical magat who twists everything to make the victims the bad people and the criminals the good ones. Sad.It has absolutely nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the abuse of the system, agencies, media etc. They literally changed laws in order to kick him off the ballot. That is election interference and the opposite of a democracy. This is a great summary of how broken it is....
You cannot abuse the system to make Trump guilty, that isn't how it works. You have to prove he did something wrong. Totally understand you don't like him, totally understand the country may not like him but he has to do something illegal.Why do you only focus on the response to Trump's treachery but never what he did to earn that response? Just a typical magat who twists everything to make the victims the bad people and the criminals the good ones. Sad.
I care about the Constitution, usually vote conservatively and I don't support Trump. Where does that put me itt?Laughable that any Trump supporter would care about the constitution at this point.
Oh noes, what a victim he is - can't believe what all those meanies did! I'm sure I could punch holes in everything you said above if I wanted to take the time, but I'll just address his library.You cannot abuse the system to make Trump guilty, that isn't how it works. You have to prove he did something wrong. Totally understand you don't like him, totally understand the country may not like him but he has to do something illegal.
Did you know that Trump and attorneys offered to have the DOJ and the FBI present on all document searches in the classified documents case? For Trump Towers, Bedminster and Mar-a-lago they insisted that DOJ and FBI be present. Did you know that DOJ and FBI refused?
Did you know that NARA collects all records at the end of every presidency and transfers them to a secure storage location in the state that the former president is moving to? Trump is the first president since Carter they didn't do that for, they refused. They also refused to build him a presidential library, again.....the first since Carter.
Did you know that no security footage was deleted from Mar-a-lago? An employee inquired about deleting and a conversation took place but Trump and his attorneys said no and then turned all records over to DOJ.
Seems totally legit that all of these things would happen and then all of the sudden there are nuclear codes missing.
If you’re not a Trump supporter then it wouldn’t seem that my post would apply to you?I care about the Constitution, usually vote conservatively and I don't support Trump. Where does that put me itt?
They probably would have tried it if not for Manchin and Sinema during Biden’s first 2 years. It’s absolutely in their plans if they win both houses and the presidency, which is why we need to nominate an electable GOP candidate.
Okay, I'll play along. How about publicly demanding the firing of a govt official in return for financial aid. How about every decision beneficial to china he has made. The ev mandate is a tremendous benefit to their economy. See articles below. I'm not saying I agree with everything in them- I barely scanned them to be honest. However, that is not the point. The point is that there are clearly some who think biden is giving them preferential treatment. The argument can be made. Heck, I could argue giving iran billions of dollars constitutes giving aide to an enemy.
Why is Biden appeasing China?
Mixed messages from Washington could lead Xi to believe that Biden lacks the strategic vision and political will to defend Taiwan against a Chinese attack.thehill.com
Biden’s failed foreign policy with China is based on a disastrous idea
Biden’s failed China policy is based on a disastrous idea that has failed before. But instead of standing up to our rival, the administration hurts ordinary Americans.www.foxnews.com
All of that is secondary, though. The main point is who gets to decide that and what that process entails.
You cannot abuse the system to make Trump guilty, that isn't how it works. You have to prove he did something wrong. Totally understand you don't like him, totally understand the country may not like him but he has to do something illegal.
Did you know that Trump and attorneys offered to have the DOJ and the FBI present on all document searches in the classified documents case? For Trump Towers, Bedminster and Mar-a-lago they insisted that DOJ and FBI be present. Did you know that DOJ and FBI refused?
Did you know that NARA collects all records at the end of every presidency and transfers them to a secure storage location in the state that the former president is moving to? Trump is the first president since Carter they didn't do that for, they refused. They also refused to build him a presidential library, again.....the first since Carter.
Did you know that no security footage was deleted from Mar-a-lago? An employee inquired about deleting and a conversation took place but Trump and his attorneys said no and then turned all records over to DOJ.
Seems totally legit that all of these things would happen and then all of the sudden there are nuclear codes missing.
Several southern states have discovered lithium deposits. That is why @TigerGrowls wet dream, Arky governor Sarah Huckabee has come out very pro-EV in the last month. You will see others follow suit, including fix news.
What’s going to happen when the SCOTUS rules that there was no insurrection and turns the lefts whole narrative upside down? Going to be some egg on the face and their narrative will continue collapsing. Even the voters who weren’t paying attention before will now see their corrupt ways.
The only way for SCOTUS to overturn this is to say there was NO insurrection (according to lieu)
@dpic73
"Voting" in Colorado.Due to Colorado voting democrat in the last 4 Presidential elections no big deal.
U.S. = turning into China , North Korea, and Russia 2.0 dictatorship.
I know. That's my point. Not much room for moderates in any political discussion. Not aimed at you in particular.If you’re not a Trump supporter then it wouldn’t seem that my post would apply to you?
Right, bc joe hasn’t been slapped down multiple times by the courts trying to usurp power he doesn’t have.Laughable that any Trump supporter would care about the constitution at this point.
Yeah. Thats how the constitution works. Trump has openly stated he wishes to tear down this and other constitutional processes.Right, bc joe hasn’t been slapped down multiple times by the courts trying to usurp power he doesn’t have.
Right, bc joe hasn’t been slapped down multiple times by the courts trying to usurp power he doesn’t have.
The Trump legal team invited the DOJ and the FBI to search all locations for classified documents with them, they declined. When do you reckon that will be on CNN? It destroys the entire narrative.hi. the trump legal team was offered the oppurtunity to present evidence and defend himself. they refused. dont get your news from twitter. its stupid.
I guess we will see if you're LOL'ing when the outcome gets flipped. What are you going to do if he gets elected in 2024? You and dicpic going to move to Canada?lololololol.
I don't believe you but why does this matter? He hid the documents from his legal team as well. He lied and said he had turned over all the documents when he knew he hadn't. He had two of his houseboys move some of the boxes out of the storage room before Corcoran had a chance to search the room.The Trump legal team invited the DOJ and the FBI to search all locations for classified documents with them, they declined. When do you reckon that will be on CNN? It destroys the entire narrative.
But sure, let us know your nonpartisan view when you stop LOL'ing
lololololol.I guess we will see if you're LOL'ing when the outcome gets flipped. What are you going to do if he gets elected in 2024? You and dicpic going to move to Canada?
Prove it but even if it's true, let me tell you a little secret. None of this would have happened if Trump didn't stage an insurrection. If you don't want to be taken off the ballot, don't insurrect dummy. Why don't you ever focus on HIS crimes?All of this on the multiple cases is being coordinated from a central control point.
Here is the liberal behind Trump's disqualification from the primary ballot in Colorado. His name is Noah Bookbinder (@NoahBookbinder). Yesterday he wrote, "We just won before the Colorado Supreme Court in our challenge to keep Donald Trump off the ballot as disqualified under the 14th amendment for engaging in insurrection. A huge moment for democracy. More to come soon."
In September, he said that his group was representing dissatisfied Republicans and Independents in Colorado who wanted Trump off the ballot. Only Republicans and Independents vote in the GOP primaries in Colorado.
He wrote back in September, "BREAKING: Six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters, represented by @CREWcrew and distinguished CO attorneys, just filed a lawsuit to remove Donald Trump from the state's ballot because he is disqualified under the constitution's 14th amendment."
NOTE: He said six Republicans and unaffiliated Colorado voters are the ones who went to court. But in reality, it's the liberals behind it using six Republicans who hate Trump.
As Glen Greenwald pointed out tonight, this same group has about 14 cases against Trump in other states using the same tactics. They want to go from state to state finding liberals registered as Republicans and to go to court.
As you can see, it all seems fraudulent.
one of them tells you they are going to steal cookies from the cookie jar. The other doesn't- just gets caught doing it. Both want to do what they want to do and don't car if the are allowed to do it or not. They both suck.Yeah. Thats how the constitution works. Trump has openly stated he wishes to tear down this and other constitutional processes.
They are not the same. Trump wants to be an autocratic ruler and his supporters attempted a coup against the government. They both suck? Ok, but one is clearly, obviously a significant threat to the institutions and even the very foundation of our republic.one of them tells you they are going to steal cookies from the cookie jar. The other doesn't- just gets caught doing it. Both want to do what they want to do and don't car if the are allowed to do it or not. They both suck.
Yeah, they almost succeeded. It they could have taken out just a few more of the top govt officials, it would have been a complete success. They were soooooo close!They are not the same. Trump wants to be an autocratic ruler and his supporters attempted a coup against the government. They both suck? Ok, but one is clearly, obviously a significant threat to the institutions and even the very foundation of our republic.
well this is just blatantly untrue.no one died that day, no one in the building had a gun, fired a single shot,
Actually you are right, one of the protestors was shot and killed. My bad, the rest is accurate.well this is just blatantly untrue.
Omg. Stop trying to whatabout everything. So they both suck. That has no bearing on anything.one of them tells you they are going to steal cookies from the cookie jar. The other doesn't- just gets caught doing it. Both want to do what they want to do and don't car if the are allowed to do it or not. They both suck.
You keep telling the same tired lies to provide cover for the sociopath that you don't like but constantly defend. There absolutely were people there with guns but we'll never know how many because the police were overwhelmed and couldn't search everyone. The lengths you'll go to provide yourself an out for your complicity SMH.Actually you are right, one of the protestors was shot and killed. My bad, the rest is accurate.
Edit to say when i said not one in the building had a gun, I meant the people attempting the coup. None of them had guns- even though they most certainly knew the police, secret service, and others who would be in charge of thwarting the coup would would certainly be armed. Weird, right?
I know reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so I will point out the fact I said not one in the building. Still, the lame "they were overwhelmed" excuse is ridiculous. If there were a majority of people there attempting a coup, knowing the "enemy" would be armed, they would almost all have been armed. Did they plan to shoot spitballs at people with guns, lol?!?!?!?!? Yet NOT ONE person IN THE BUILDING attempting the coup fired a shot or was caught with a gun. NOT ONE!You keep telling the same tired lies to provide cover for the sociopath that you don't like but constantly defend. There absolutely were people there with guns but we'll never know how many because the police were overwhelmed and couldn't search everyone. The lengths you'll go to provide yourself an out for your complicity SMH.
As for this lovefest that wasn't a coup, why was Trump calling on Pence DURING the insurrection to refuse to perfrom his Constitutional duty and calling Senators to persuade them to stop the counting of electoral votes? You damn right he was trying to take my vote away so he could remain in power, no matter how much you simp for those traitors.
"A few observations on the list. First, on the issue of guns. Five suspects — Christopher Michael Alberts, Lonnie Leroy Coffman, Mark Sami Ibrahim, Cleveland Grover Meredith Jr., and Guy Wesley Reffitt — are charged with possessing firearms. But none are charged with using them during the riot.
Alberts was arrested at 7:25 p.m., after the riot was over, when police enforcing the District of Columbia curfew suspected he had a handgun under his coat as he was leaving.
Coffman was arrested at about 6:30 p.m. after he told police that he was trying to get to his parked pickup truck. Officers found two handguns on Coffman's person and two more guns, along with possible bomb-making materials, in the truck.
Ibrahim was a Drug Enforcement Administration agent who had given his notice to resign and was on personal leave on Jan. 6; at the riot, he was carrying his DEA-issued badge and pistol.
Meredith was not in Washington at all for the riot. He arrived later that evening after allegedly texting a threatening message about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Meredith told police that "he had two firearms in his truck, and he knew that he was not supposed to have the firearms in Washington, DC. Therefore, he moved the firearms to his trailer," according to court documents. Officers found a handgun, a rifle, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in the trailer.
Finally, court papers say Reffitt had a handgun on his person on Jan. 6."
'Armed insurrection': What weapons did the Capitol rioters carry?
Recently, Scott MacFarlane, an NBC4 reporter in Washington who covers the Capitol riot prosecutions, tweeted, "As of tonight at least 65 of the Jan. 6 defendants have been charged with 'entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.' A counterpunch to those who argued this didn't...news.yahoo.com
The board libs are special needs apparently.I know reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so I will point out the fact I said not one in the building. Still, the lame "they were overwhelmed" excuse is ridiculous. If there were a majority of people there attempting a coup, knowing the "enemy" would be armed, they would almost all have been armed. Did they plan to shoot spitballs at people with guns, lol?!?!?!?!? Yet NOT ONE person IN THE BUILDING attempting the coup fired a shot or was caught with a gun. NOT ONE!
Even if you want to expand that to the outside area around the building, 5 people is nothing. I'm not sure how many people were arrested, well over 700, but the fact that there were only 5 with guns should tell you the overwhelming majority, if not all of them, had zero intention of attempting a coup. 5/700 = is not even 1%. Plus, they caught all of those leaving, or not even at the capitol, right? Why did they not use their guns while they were there?
You are the one that has to be simple minded to think any significant percentage of people there that day came with any intention of attempting a coup. Yeah, I'm going to go face armed capitol police and freaking secret service agents, but I'm just going to leave my gun at home. LOL!
Only a loser that wants to absolve himself of his guilt would say it wasn't a coup attempt because it didn't work.I know reading comprehension is not your strong suit, so I will point out the fact I said not one in the building. Still, the lame "they were overwhelmed" excuse is ridiculous. If there were a majority of people there attempting a coup, knowing the "enemy" would be armed, they would almost all have been armed. Did they plan to shoot spitballs at people with guns, lol?!?!?!?!? Yet NOT ONE person IN THE BUILDING attempting the coup fired a shot or was caught with a gun. NOT ONE!
Even if you want to expand that to the outside area around the building, 5 people is nothing. I'm not sure how many people were arrested, well over 700, but the fact that there were only 5 with guns should tell you the overwhelming majority, if not all of them, had zero intention of attempting a coup. 5/700 = is not even 1%. Plus, they caught all of those leaving, or not even at the capitol, right? Why did they not use their guns while they were there?
You are the one that has to be simple minded to think any significant percentage of people there that day came with any intention of attempting a coup. Yeah, I'm going to go face armed capitol police and freaking secret service agents, but I'm just going to leave my gun at home. LOL!