Wow, wildest comment I've seen on Tilgerillustrated and got a like from known racist Edistoplayer
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Two police officers shot in Dallas
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Wow, wildest comment I've seen on Tilgerillustrated and got a like from known racist Edistoplayer
Everyone's life matters, not matter where you come from. I don't understand why people can't see that. I personally think the BLM group is perpetuating the problem because they are separating themselves into a separate group against everyone else. It shouldn't be "black lives matter" or "blue lives matter" it should be ALL lives matter. Period. I'm not saying don't be proud of your heritage, I'm saying that people need to realize that we are all human beings, and should be working toward solutions together. Just my two cents.
-- Retired FBI special agent Steve Moore said an attack of that magnitude required advance work.
-- "This was an attack planned long before -- waiting for an opportunity to go," Moore said. "I think there was so much logistically, ammunition-wise. They may not have planned the location, they may not have planned the vantage point. But they had prepared for an attack before last night's shooting is my guess."
Key point. Looks like this attack was planned well before the last few days. They used the protest as an opportunity to inflict maximum damage.
-- "This was an attack planned long before -- waiting for an opportunity to go," Moore said. "I think there was so much logistically, ammunition-wise. They may not have planned the location, they may not have planned the vantage point. But they had prepared for an attack before last night's shooting is my guess."
Key point. Looks like this attack was planned well before the last few days. They used the protest as an opportunity to inflict maximum damage.
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If our founding fathers were alive today they would be leading a second revolution to take back their country.
Yeah, you are wrong. I'm not trying to say anything. I'm saying: The violence displayed in the video footage of two incidents in two days between white cops and black men was the spark that set off more violence. It's as if you could just feel this reaction coming. And that incident in Louisiana of the cops shooting that man multiple times, while they had him pinned on the concrete, on his back, was bullshit.
As for the individual that got on here and made the cute statement about me needing to try praying: Every American that believes in something bigger than themselves better be praying, because we live in a sickened nation. And we all better start learning how to live together in peace, regardless of skin color, or the incidents and reactions of the last few days will be just the beginning of what we will face. As a people, we are in serious trouble.
From a black man's perspective, I just don't see it that way. From our perspective it doesn't really seem like people give people give 2 shits about us. It's been that way for many decades, and we're just tired of it.
No other group has been treaters as lowly and as for long as the black community in this country. Has it gotten better, much better? Definitely. Could it still get a lot better? Definitely. As a member of the black community, I will be the first to admit that we have many things to work on internally l, and its almost certainly a larger issue in my mind than cops killing us. But it is still an issue.
I just wish we would focus on both sides of the black issue, plus the all lives matter. They aren't mutually exclusive ideas. But for some reason BLM doesn't include black on black crime, BLM doesn't include all lives matter, and ALM wants to erase the term BLM.
Ya know, I read an article shortly after Obama began his 2nd term, that talked about how this administration would attempt to turn people against each other (particularly against cops) & then declare martial law in the fall of the next election year to stay in power...
At the time, I thought it was bullshvt as I generally don't fall into the conspiracy theorists trap...but this administration has done nothing but fan the flames of racial divide & has particularly pitted black people vs. law enforcement...
Needless to say, I'm beginning to think that article was spot-on...unfortunately
At the time, I thought it was bullshvt as I generally don't fall into the conspiracy theorists trap...but this administration has done nothing but fan the flames of racial divide & has particularly pitted black people vs. law enforcement...
Needless to say, I'm beginning to think that article was spot-on...unfortunately
Most black people don't have an issue with police on that level. That would take a ridiculously large uprising
Honestly, between Trump and Clinton.....Obama serving a third term might not be the worst thing in the world.
I'll be voting for Trump but that doesn't mean I think he's the ideal candidate...i don't like Hillary at all...
But I would take either one of them in a second over a 3rd term for Obama...i believe that would be catastrophic for this nation
I think what the BLM movement is about is they're saying that they have already been separated out by police and the justice system as a whole. They believe they are being treated unequally and that when members of their community are wrongfully killed by police, there seem to be no consequences. So what they see is a country where all lives do matter except black ones. That's why the movement is called what it's called.
This was a long time coming. I don't condone this but blacks have had enough of the racial profiling and BS police tactics.
Good post. Unfortunately this incident will only make things worse. Randomly killing police officers who were actually protecting your cause's peaceful right to protest is not going to have the majority of Americans supporting your movement. And yes, I realize that is lumping these idiots in with the whole movement. I can differentiate between the two but for the most part public opinion does not do a good job of making that distinction.
If you are a police officer you are MORE on edge now more than ever. That is not a good thing.
I don't disagree with you. But, blacks are fed up. This has been going on forever. It's time
For it to change.
But this is also two snipers. Who knows if they are white or black?
I'm guessing he wasn't white
(CNN)[Breaking news update, published at 8:59 a.m. ET]
A suspect who died after a standoff with Dallas police said he wanted to kill white people -- especially white officers -- and that he was upset about "the recent police shootings," and that he acted alone, Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters Friday.
I agree I've had black friends all of my life even back just after they segregation ended in schools. But I believe a large majority of the white population believe they have as much right as anyone else does and they bring some of their problems on themselves. All I do know is this country and the world needs a change.
Two edged sword though....these 'weapons' aren't strictly for aggression......Americans like me use them for 'protection'!!
Should have been called "Black Lives Matter Too" IMO ..... don't you agree? Because too many white people don't understand the sentiment of BLM. They see it as black people separating themselves from the rest of the population and saying that only black lives matter. I understand that is not the message that is intended but that is how it is received in some circles.
Interesting... This thread is like a societal Petri dish. Maybe we can all learn something if we keep it constructive.
This is a tough dilemma, we all want to keep our culture and our history of who we are. But, as long as we separate our selves into different classes, this will continue to go on forever.
For justice to truly be blind (statute of a woman blindfolded), it cannot see a black community or a white community, or a Hispanic community. It should only see Americans. Yet, that is not what our government does. It separates us from our Birth Certificate, every government survey we fill out, and every census. Your never going to be able to judge everyone based on their actions, if you distinguish yourself or your group by color.
For the record, I'm not blaming you, I do the same thing. Even Ice and some of our most liberal posters distinguish people by color. If I say Trump rally participant, first thoughts, 'white guy'. I do it too. We've been taught to do it since birth.
But this will always cause a division. When I read a thread that says, I cannot believe there are white guys that will still vote for Hillary. If I'm totally new to the situation, and if I'm not white, I would think I need to vote for Hillary. Without even discussing the ideals of either candidate, I'm making a decision based on an appearance. To get to the point, I think the government needs to stop taking data based on color. It needs to stop making decisions based on color. And base their decisions off of financial merit. Justice=government, and it can never be blind if it sees color.
It is the under-lining problem. We all want justice, but we all see justice through our perception of color. B/c we've been taught to see that way for hundreds of years. And no, making the change tomorrow will not solve 100s of years of perception. It will take 100s of years to re-teach our society. But the clock needs to start sometime. Why not now?
I don't disagree BLMT would have been good, but I think the "too" should be pretty much understood and not needed. Anyone who doesn't see/understand that wouldn't care what it is called. Those same people would find a way to undermine it no matter the name.
What an absolutely ridiculous statement. I imagine the article you read was from one of those ultra conservative websites that just feeds on weak minded individuals such as yourself.
President Obama is not against police officers. However, we have never had a POTUS who better understands how black males are stereotyped in a negative manner too often by police officers and by the general population. He has made statements that I disagree with in the past as he has let his personal emotions in the matter get in the way of good judgement at times. But he, like most reasonably intelligent people, realizes that we all owe a debt of gratitude to our police officers as a whole. Unfortunately there are a few officers that give the large majority a bad rap which really sucks.
Probably. You are never going to be able to change some people's minds. However, some of these folks are hung up on words like Obama not using the word terrorists in regards to some of the attacks we have seen over the past few years. It is why these people like Trump because he isn't politically correct and "tells it like it is."
Meh, black people tell white people they can't understand what blacks have gone through and then you say white people don't care because they don't understand. The problem is that the vocal minority on both sides don't want to understand or respect anyone's viewpoint but their own. I don't pretend to know what it's like to be black and feel like you're discriminated against. But I do know that black leaders using each of these incidents as a way to cause an uprising doesn't help race relations or the relationship with the police.
Even you said "as a member of the black community, I will be the first to admit that we have many things to work on internally l, and its almost certainly a larger issue in my mind than cops killing us." Then why are these internal issues not the focus? Why do the media and Jesse Jackson not address these issues with as much conviction as they do the issues involving race? Not meant to be accusatory, I'm genuinely curious.
So you can belittle and talk trash on a message board, but when someone wants to take you up on the lap you offered and have a discussion you escalate to violence?
Maybe it's a culture problem???
Does history repeat itself?
Are we are staring squarely in the face - the Summer of 1968 revisited?
From the Democratic Convention in Chicago to the Black Power Salutes in The Olympics - it could be on the way. Look out Cleveland and Philadelphia.
Are we are staring squarely in the face - the Summer of 1968 revisited?
From the Democratic Convention in Chicago to the Black Power Salutes in The Olympics - it could be on the way. Look out Cleveland and Philadelphia.
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And I am not surprised you would believe that. I will bet you everything I own President Obama is not looking to declare and will not declare martial law before his term is up. You want to make that bet? Where do you people come up with this crap?
And by the way, I didn't vote for President Obama and don't agree with a lot of his political viewpoints, but I don't get the absolute hate, disdain and vitriol that some of you have for him as an individual. Its pretty rediculous and sad.
Until people start learning to listen and work with people that they have differing viewpoints as opposed to simply hating and trying to anialate the other side and their viewpoint, we are going to flounder and be less than we should be as a country. I can disagree with someone politically and even personally, but I don't have to hate them and every single word that comes out of their mouth before they even say it. With some of you there is not a single thing the man could say without it being twisted into crazy talk. If he came out and said the sky was blue, you would take issue with it and argue that their was some conspiracy behind that statement simply because he said it.
People are too prejudicial. Prejudice applies not just with race, gender, etc., it applies with politics, sports, etc. as well. We are a prejudicial society. People pick a side and defend it to the end. They can't find or accept fault in their own viewpoints. They look at everything through that one sided lens and shape every situation to fit their preconceived narrative. They only seek out the morsels of info that fit their narrative and blindly discount everything else. It's dangerous and the internet has only fed people's ability to hunker down in a pile of bullshit that fits whatever false narrative they choose to live in.
Because Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are not representative of the black community. They are guys that want to be on TV. We can't control what they do.
The internal issues are a focus for many black people, it's just not the sensationalized movement. There are plenty of organizations all around the country to combat the violence and to educate those growing up in predominantly black communties. The problem is those they are trying to help cannot see that they need the help in the first place. The poor black family is so fundamentally broken that it honestly cannot be fixed, I don't think. And yes, the root of that breakdown does stem from the oppression that the black community faced way back when.
I really don't know how to explain it without making a really long post, so in a nutshell just understand the community is broken on a fundamental level that is difficult to und r stand unless you are surrounded by it.
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