Two police officers shot in Dallas
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Appreciate the civilized response, it's hard to come by anymore. Family is where these problems are to be solved so if the "poor black family is so fundamentally broken it cannot be fixed" then I don't know how it's going to be fixed. Government sure as hell isn't going to do it.
No problem. I don't know either. It would take a ton of money, and resources that honestly aren't available.
What police officer has gotten off after wrongfully shooting an african american? I know the one in SC was indicted almost immediately.
Finally, voice of reason. Very poor on any POTUS to position themselves in such a manner. Barry just isn't very smart when it comes to these types of events.
The situation is a tragedy. Prayers for all involved.
I really don't think Obama is the source of the race issues.
The real difference is social media. The rise of Facebook, Twitter, etc and cell phones with cameras that can record anything have changed the dynamic of everything. Especially politics and race relations. Now everything is recorded, everybody can voice their terrible opinions, protests (and counter protests) are easy/simple to organize. Echo chamber style "news" on the internet has magnified everything and hardened people's beliefs.
Anybody who was president would have to deal with these issues.
On one hand it is beautiful that people can record stuff and be heard and hopefully the end result will lead to everything being better, but in its infancy and people on both sides like jimbob being able to share their opinions definitely does not improve race relations.
It also makes it seem like everything is worse now because every event is magnified and covered. Race relations don't only come to the forefront for major events like the LA Riots in 1992.
Now way events like the Eric Garner, Michael Brown or any of these other issues come to the forefront before social media.
I really don't think Obama is the source of the race issues.
The real difference is social media. The rise of Facebook, Twitter, etc and cell phones with cameras that can record anything have changed the dynamic of everything. Especially politics and race relations. Now everything is recorded, everybody can voice their terrible opinions, protests (and counter protests) are easy/simple to organize. Echo chamber style "news" on the internet has magnified everything and hardened people's beliefs.
Anybody who was president would have to deal with these issues.
On one hand it is beautiful that people can record stuff and be heard and hopefully the end result will lead to everything being better, but in its infancy and people on both sides like jimbob being able to share their opinions definitely does not improve race relations.
It also makes it seem like everything is worse now because every event is magnified and covered. Race relations don't only come to the forefront for major events like the LA Riots in 1992.
Now way events like the Eric Garner, Michael Brown or any of these other issues come to the forefront before social media.
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It's beyond stupid. A guy gets shot in Minneapolis so these geniuses decide to shoot people in - Dallas? WTF dude?
How about a bomb? Those aren't terribly hard to make. And are even worse. One of the biggest in history was made with fertilizer.
I would take Trump over Obama. I would take Dale Earnhardt's corpse over Obama. But I would still take Obama over Hillary.
And exactly what did this do to stop that? If anything it will make things worse.
It made cops more nervous. Nervous cops can result in dead people. Just how it is.
5 cops dead, and all we are doing is once again arguing about guns. It's just f-ing stupid to narrow our countries issues down to democrats and republicans or pro-gun and anti-gun or pro-life and pro-choice or blaming races. Any time any of these incidents happen, all we do is dumb down the resolution and then argue til are heads explode or until more people die. I really wish we were a lot smarter than that. But, you can't even sit down with anyone anymore and have an honest debate because everyone thinks they are right despite how many things point to the fact that some of what they think is wrong.
The answer is compromise. How do we do it? I have no f-ing clue. Because this thread pretty much sums up how divided the country is. As long as people allow these "leaders" to create that division in the name of nothing getting done and keeping their jobs, there will never be compromise. It's not as simple as blaming last night on guns. It's not as simple as blaming cops for killing blacks. It's not as simple as saying you should just submit to police. People who are dug in on both sides of this refuse to budge. If both could admit that each group is a little right and a little wrong, then maybe we can make progress. But I won't hold my breath. This is exactly how our "leaders" want us to behave. Like sheep. And the wheel keeps turning.
The answer is compromise. How do we do it? I have no f-ing clue. Because this thread pretty much sums up how divided the country is. As long as people allow these "leaders" to create that division in the name of nothing getting done and keeping their jobs, there will never be compromise. It's not as simple as blaming last night on guns. It's not as simple as blaming cops for killing blacks. It's not as simple as saying you should just submit to police. People who are dug in on both sides of this refuse to budge. If both could admit that each group is a little right and a little wrong, then maybe we can make progress. But I won't hold my breath. This is exactly how our "leaders" want us to behave. Like sheep. And the wheel keeps turning.
So the shooter that died said, 'I want to kill as many white people and especially as many white cops as I can". I wonder if the police hollered this before shooting the black dudes? I am so glad you don't condone this Gamewell. That would be bad.
Exactly... Twenty years ago Alex Jones would be pounding his head against some psyche ward wall after they picked him up off of some street corner where he was eating his boogers and holding a sign claiming the Aliens are coming. His influence would have been limited to that street corner. No one would know who the heck he was. Now, thanks to the internet and social media, he is considered a legit news source and a news hero for thousands if not millions of close minded, ignorant folks who just want to believe crazy sh## and can't separate fact from fiction when they hear it.
People's prejudices and fears are being fed at an alarming rate unlike ever before in history.
Just my opinion but i agree, somewhat. The root of most of the issues in the black community stems from single parent households. It's crazy how much this affects a child and how "successful" he/she will be. From all demographics this holds true. For whatever reason, many i assume, this is more prevalent in the black community. I just don't see how single parent households is the aftermath of oppression in most cases.
Really??
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/index.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...shed-in-china-elementary-school-knife-attack/
Before long your going to want knives banned, you might laugh but it is already happening in England.
Although I disagree with some points in your post we are on the same page in regards to the section in bold.
I stated this in another thread when someone posted some erroneous information from twitter. There is more information and data available today than any time in the history of the world. This is a great thing but it comes with some downsides. Because anyone and everyone has a voice there are a ton of OPINIONS that are broadcast across the world. Unfortunately, too many people take everything posted on the internet as fact and don't take the time to critically analyze or even do simple fact checking. Sadly the information to corroborate or contradict is right there on the internet too but people are too lazy to do that. It even happens in our mainstream media. They stopped reporting the news and started feeding their agendas and increasing their bottom lines years ago with no thought of journalistic integrity. The internet could be considered the best thing and the worst thing to happen to our nation.
Sadly I probably say once a week "Stop getting your news from Facebook".
Good post, however i would say the good far outweighs the bad. Not even close IMO
At the risk of sounding callous towards the current situation, violent crime has been steadily declining every year since 1994 in this country. But, the internet has made the world smaller, and only the negative in the world goes noticed.
Absolutely, hopefully when they outlaw our guns it will work as well as it has on meth, heroin, coke, child porn etc. The criminals will have another trillion dollar industry to manage and us law abiders will be defenseless.
I think the good outweighs the bad but I think the gap is much narrower.
Also, it is interesting watching a generation grow up that has always had the internet and how their social interactions and views of the world are influenced, due to much of their social interaction and world views come via the interwebs.
*edit: because my poor sentence structure was bothering me.
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The family is the foundation of civilization......black families stayed intact at a greater rate than white until sometime in the 60's. As man rejects God and his design for the family anarchy and chaos are guaranteed...
So, randomly killing 5 people trying to protect your rights was a long time coming?
I believe that is where it started, but not the sole reason. It's also more than just the single family aspect that stems from that era. Much of the ties to drugs, lack of success in education, making money and knowing what to do with it, etc... it all largely stems from that era.
I think you wold be very surprised at how difficult it is to learn when no one around you truly understands how to learn, get through school, or in many cases doesn't even care. It's something I think most of America takes for granted and assumes is a straight forward process that everyone should be able to do with relative ease.
You think the black community lost its religion?
But somehow, in your brain, you understand it. That's the difference. I will never understand senseless killing.
Keith Conrad @keithrconradAlready lots of hot takes on the Dallas attack http://ift.tt/29mCm9V
The sub-segment of Talk Radio Listeners and People Who Call Radio Shows. Can't really get any worse than this sub-segment of the population. William from Battle Creek with perhaps the hottest take on Dallas Shooting yet.
Already lots of hot takes on the Dallas attack http://ift.tt/29mCm9V
The sub-segment of Talk Radio Listeners and People Who Call Radio Shows. Can't really get any worse than this sub-segment of the population. William from Battle Creek with perhaps the hottest take on Dallas Shooting yet.
Sadly, this too often resembles TigerIllustrated.
But, I'm also for going back to old west style reward posters.
@GilaMonsta the civil discourse and honest discussion is greatly appreciated. These are the types of discussions that need to be had not the political and agenda charged crap that both sides are guilty of.
I think the black family unit, or lack thereof, is the biggest challenge facing the black community. When +/- 70% of black children are growing up in a single parent household, that is truly an epidemic. That % is up from +/- 20% in 1960.
Additionally it doesn't apply to just the black community the percentage of white kids growing up in a single parent household has also increased in the same period from +/-4% to +/- 20%.
This is alarming.
I would also argue LBJ incentivizing single motherhood through government assistance and his over the top expansion of the welfare state was one of the worst things that has happened to our nation.
I believe most of the world has turn away from God. Plus the family has been destroyed by numerous things and it's just not in the black community.
Yes, i don't think it is the sole reason. Just the biggest one IMO. When i said "successful" in my first post, it meant more than just earnings. Staying in school/pursuing a college degree, having children out of wedlock, committing violent crimes, drug use, staying/falling below the poverty line, ect. I really am amazed at the correlation among all these "bad" things and growing up in a single parent household. It's not just blacks that see a rise in these things, whites, Asians, and Latino's all see a identical rate increase. I'm heading to class but i'll provide evidence/statistics later today. Now the causation is more up for interpreting, but the correlation is there. But i believe not having a farther or father figure at a fragile time is the causation, for a large percentage. And i can see how some of that stems from that era, but why has the rate of single parent households in the black community spiked significantly since the Civil Rights era? I would say blacks are far less "oppressed" today then when the Jim Crow laws were in effect. Which is why i believe the root of single parent households is not from oppression. Anyways, this is interesting stuff to me and enjoy the discussion
Good point in the bold.
