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Why Insane Liberals Deserve Better Than the Jan 6 House Comittee Hearing Rules

They should at least try and keep it low key.



 
More receipts for you Growls. They have a video of Trump lunging towards the driver's side of the limousine on Jan 6th 😅





A reporter heard the same thing from law enforcement

If anyone says they can tell what happened in that vehicle based on those videos, you are lying. HOWEVER, lets just say Trump was irate and tried to grab the wheel of a parked suv bc he wanted to go to the capitol. What crime is there in that? He was mad and threw a temper tantrum like the kindergartener he is bc the ss didn't want him to go. I honestly don't understand what difference it makes whether he did it or not.
Please explain the relevance if it actually happened that way.
 
If anyone says they can tell what happened in that vehicle based on those videos, you are lying. HOWEVER, lets just say Trump was irate and tried to grab the wheel of a parked suv bc he wanted to go to the capitol. What crime is there in that? He was mad and threw a temper tantrum like the kindergartener he is bc the ss didn't want him to go. I honestly don't understand what difference it makes whether he did it or not.
Please explain the relevance if it actually happened that way.
It’s laughable man, not worth your time. SS has already debunked it and these folks don’t buy that for whatever reason. It’s still impossible to grab the steering wheel regardless… don’t lose sleep over these folks anymore
 
If anyone says they can tell what happened in that vehicle based on those videos, you are lying. HOWEVER, lets just say Trump was irate and tried to grab the wheel of a parked suv bc he wanted to go to the capitol. What crime is there in that? He was mad and threw a temper tantrum like the kindergartener he is bc the ss didn't want him to go. I honestly don't understand what difference it makes whether he did it or not.
Please explain the relevance if it actually happened that way.
BINGO!! I tried to point this out also.
 
not foolish enough to believe you really want the truth or that you will recognize the seriousness of the issue because in your imagined scenario it's not a coup unless it happens just like it would in Bangladesh. If it's not a coordinated mob with guns, who ransack the building and hold everyone hostage, it just can't be a coup. That's how it goes it your tightly scripted scenario that you've posted here a hundred times.

You won't allow yourself to see it through any other lens because that might mean your hero could be guilty. If your hero didn't have a mob go in with guns a blazing, he's innocent in your favorite fairy tale.

But what do you call it when a group conspires to ignore the will of the people and illegally stay in power? I don't care what you call it, that's what happened and it was depraved, not to mention illegal. That's the part you're ignoring but it has been thoroughly proven in the hearings, with more to come.

As far as the weapons go, IF YOU WOULD HAVE WATCHED THE HEARINGS, you would have heard her testimony in which she described the Secret Service communications saying there were lots of people on the Ellipse with weapons, including guns(they even played the SS audio). The Trump team was informed but they didn't want to do anything.

Later he became annoyed because the field wasn't full and he asked them to let the rest of the crowd in. When informed that they had weapons, he said he didn't care because they weren't there to hurt him and they could go to the Capitol from there. She heard that firsthand. That is despicable and no matter how you try to frame it, HE DIDNT CARE that they were marching to the Capitol with guns! That is sickening to know a President of the US wasn't concerned about the safety of the police or people at the Capitol. That may not have been scripted like they do it in Bangladesh but it was absolutely a threat to Congress - get it?

Cippilone became extremely concerned when the crowd started chanting Hang Mike Pence so he approached Meadows right outside of Trump's office and asked him to do something. Meadows told him Trump didn't want to do anything about it because Pence deserved it. HE DIDN’T CARE if Pence was killed. Get it?

Michael Fanone said they didn't have the ability to search everyone for weapons so there's another flaw in your fairytale. They didn't know how many had guns. Got it?

He tried 6-7:ways to overturn the will of the people but you won't blame him only because it was messy and it didn't succeed.

He's a sick sick man and regardless we know you'll come back with some bizarre pretzel logic to absolve him, but that will just make you a fool. Well actually you already are...

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If anyone says they can tell what happened in that vehicle based on those videos, you are lying. HOWEVER, lets just say Trump was irate and tried to grab the wheel of a parked suv bc he wanted to go to the capitol. What crime is there in that? He was mad and threw a temper tantrum like the kindergartener he is bc the ss didn't want him to go. I honestly don't understand what difference it makes whether he did it or not.
Please explain the relevance if it actually happened that way.
Cotdamn you are the most maddening bag of ass on this board.

NOBODY CARED about that part of the testimony! When the hearing was over, those who watched it were on the board discussing how damning her testimony was. We were discussing the OTHER parts of her testimony. Then all the troglodytes on the board(your tribe) WHO DIDN'T WATCH it came rushing in to regurgitate something they heard/saw in right wing media refuting the story in the car. They thought they had a smoking gun that would blow up her entire testimony, however, that was the LEAST IMPORTANT part of her testimony and we weren't even discussing it. Palmetto Tiger even started a whole new thread about it. That's the ONLY REASON we were addressing it. Comprende?
 
I never said there was no one in the crowd OUTSIDE the capitol that was armed. Of course there were- just like there were at every BLM/ANTIFA attended riot over multiple years. What I have said repeatedly is that no one in the capitol building was armed, no shots were fired and they did not seem to know where they were going- which flies in the face of there being some pre orchestrated coup attempt that trump and his associates were part of.

I am sure there were plans made by some groups to attend, just like all the other BLM/ANTIFA attended riots where people were bused in. It is ridiculous to think everyone there just woke up that morning and decided "hey, why don't I go to the capitol and protest!"

To your points:

If you are going to insist that trump "sent" them bc he called for them to march to the capitol with him during his speech that day then you also have to acknowledge he called for the protest to be PEACEFULLY bc that was in the very same speech, maybe even the same sentence. No surprise you conveniently left that out. Also not mentioned by you are at least two tweets by Trump calling for NO VIOLENCE and for people to go home and to respect law enforcement within about an hour of the capitol breech.

Finally, the percentage of people who were armed (with guns) was obviously extremely small. Best estimates indicate several thousand protestors that were actually at the capitol. I looked at about ten articles and the highest number I saw was 16 gun arrests. That is less than 1% of the crowd. We know they arrested over 700 people. Again, is it your opinion that Trump and his associates, in an effort to attempt a coup and take control of the capitol sent, summoned, or pre arranged for protestors to show up but told them only one or less out of each hundred could bring a gun and please keep the total under 20? Did he also tell them not to fire under any circumstances?

Also, there were anywhere from 10K-30K trump supporters at the mall. Did all those people he summoned there just suddenly stop listening to him when he "sent" them to the capitol?

I'm not saying Trump did nothing wrong, but all you lunatics suggesting this was some pre planned, organized attack on the capitol have completely detached from reality. NONE of the actual events of that day support this notion at all. Again, not one person in the capitol was found, seen, or reported to have a gun. Not ONE shot was fired ANYWHERE at, in, or around the capitol by protestors even though your claim is many of them were armed with the intent of causing harm to the point of murdering the vp.

Based on your account of what happened that day:

The only trump supporters with guns that made it to the capitol changed their mind about using them, and none of them actually made it in the capitol. Also, everyone that actually knew the layout of the capitol and were to lead the insurrectionist to hang the vp couldn't get in or got lost on the way since the insurrectionist that made it in did not go directly to the legislative chambers and evidently had no idea of escape/emergency protocols. What are the odds of that?
This is why it's useless trying to have a conversation with you. I knew exactly why you wanted us to relay what she said in her testimony instead of WATCHING IT YOURSELF. You didn't give a shit about the facts or the seriousness of what happened that day - you simply wanted to hear what we had to say so you could craft a new defense around it. Your ridiculous copy/pasted fairy tale, that you've posted here a hundred times, no longer applied so you needed time to regroup so you could create a new manifesto to absolve him of all responsibility.

The only relevant facts are that he knew they were armed and didn't care! It doesn't matter how many guns were found or that it didn't work - it could have been really, really bad, particularly if they actually found the lawmakers before they were removed from the building.

Trump also stated to let them in regardless of their weapons because they weren't there to "hurt him." Well then who were they there to hurt?? What were the guns and other weapons for? Answer that question!

And I'll repeat this again since you're trying your best to ignore it. THEY DON'T KNOW how many guns there were in the crowd because they couldn't search people because they were FIGHTING FOR THEIR LIVES!

Michael Fanone even relayed that when he was separated from the other officers and surrounded they were yelling, "get his gun and kill him with it". He also got tased at the base of his neck! After he was beaten unconscious, his partner, Jimmy Albright, who was also injured, brought him to the hospital.

“At the hospital, doctors told me that I had suffered a heart attack, and I was later diagnosed with a concussion, traumatic brain injury and posttraumatic stress disorder,” Fanone said. He continues to struggle with the “trauma and emotional anxiety” that have stayed with him since that day."



I'll leave you with his words from his first appearance before Congress:

“All I’ve ever cared about is protecting you and the public so you can do your job in service to this country and for those whom you represent,” he said, directly addressing members of Congress.

What makes the struggle harder and more painful is to know so many of my fellow citizens, including so many of the people I put my life at risk to defend, are downplaying or outright denying what happened,” Fanone said. “I feel like I went to hell and back to protect them and the people in this room. Too many are now telling me that hell doesn't exist, or that hell wasn’t that bad.”

“The indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful!”

“My law enforcement career prepared me to cope with some of the aspects of this experience. Being an officer, you know your life is at risk whenever you walk out the door, even if you don’t expect other law-abiding citizens to take up arms against you.
But nothing — truly nothing — has prepared me to address those elected members of our government who continue to deny the events of that day, and in doing so, betray their oath of office.”

He's talking about you above. The fact that we still have to put up with bullshit like yours to this day is disgusting. You are not a patriot.

You are a disgrace
 
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