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The suspect who murdered the UGA student has been arrested.

I'm still waiting for those Mexicans to pay for that wall like Trump said would happen. I do believe he was in office for four years and strangely enough, basically nothing was done. I think Steve Bannon suckered some bluehairs into donating about $4M for that wall, and now he's facing charges (imagine that).

Can you explain why it's not treasonous to tank a border security bill for your own personal political gain over the good of the country? According to Trump we can simply wait till January at the earliest to do anything about it. Why are you so worried about it if the Republicans don't care now? I guess you should call up the office of that "leftist" Republican Senator James Lankford who is so pissed about having his bill buried.

lol at accusing someone of having Trump in their brain while people in this thread are calling Biden treasonous over border security immediately after Trump who isn't even in office scared the pussy Republicans on The Hill into tanking the bipartisan border security bill that was coauthored by a respected conservative Republican senator.

Meanwhile Trump still hasn't condemned Putin for murdering Navalny and said he would encourage Putin to do whatever the hell he wanted to do to other NATO countries who "didn't pay up" (which is hilarious coming from the guy who won't even pay Rudy G for legal fees), but somehow on TI Biden is the traitor. Good lord.
Wow, anyone mention Biden then the tiny brains have to respond with Trump.
I'm not a Trump, Maga or anything you mouth breathers have to hope every Conservative or Republican has bought into.
I'm a free thinker and have common sense along with being able to think outside of the box unlike you hypocrites.
Biden hasn't told the truth in his whole political career and yet you shallow minded followers think he's the best? WOW
 
Using conservative logic here what we actually need to prevent violent crime from illegal immigrants is more illegal immigrants. The only thing that stops a bad guy illegal immigrant is a good guy illegal immigrant.
Do you seriously have a job in the public sector or maybe you just watch illegals pick fruit and get a paycheck. You never make much sense when it comes to politics, stay in your lane and talk football.
 
I'm still waiting for those Mexicans to pay for that wall like Trump said would happen. I do believe he was in office for four years and strangely enough, basically nothing was done. I think Steve Bannon suckered some bluehairs into donating about $4M for that wall, and now he's facing charges (imagine that).

Can you explain why it's not treasonous to tank a border security bill for your own personal political gain over the good of the country? According to Trump we can simply wait till January at the earliest to do anything about it. Why are you so worried about it if the Republicans don't care now? I guess you should call up the office of that "leftist" Republican Senator James Lankford who is so pissed about having his bill buried.

lol at accusing someone of having Trump in their brain while people in this thread are calling Biden treasonous over border security immediately after Trump who isn't even in office scared the pussy Republicans on The Hill into tanking the bipartisan border security bill that was coauthored by a respected conservative Republican senator.

Meanwhile Trump still hasn't condemned Putin for murdering Navalny and said he would encourage Putin to do whatever the hell he wanted to do to other NATO countries who "didn't pay up" (which is hilarious coming from the guy who won't even pay Rudy G for legal fees), but somehow on TI Biden is the traitor. Good lord.
A young girl got murdered , you really need to **** off
 
Are the people in this thread mad at Trump for telling Mike Johnson and the other Rs to tank the border security bill that ultra conservative Republican Senator James Lankford co-authored because Trump didn't want Biden to get credit for it (even though Dems didn't particularly like it because it was considered very conservative)?

"The Border Act of 2024 will give U.S. Border Patrol agents authorities codified, in law, that we have not had in the past. This will allow us to remove single adults expeditiously and without a lengthy judicial review which historically has required the release of these individuals into the interior of the United States. This alone will drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our borders illegally and evade apprehension. While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo. This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage,” said Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council.

For some reason, even though the border is such a crisis, Johnson and the Rs decided to take a two-week vacation from their very strenuous jobs on Capitol Hill.

Do we have a border crisis or not? Or is it all political theatre? Is it treasonous to order your cronies to torpedo a bill that the U.S. Border Patrol endorsed while simultaneously doing the bidding of our biggest threat who is trying to reorganize the old USSR? Many people would say aiding Putin and refusing to criticize him is treasonous.
What does that bill have to do with the death of this young woman? It seems that the piece of crap that killed her came into the country a couple years ago on the watch of the dementia patient we call president who refused to enforce immigration laws already on the books.

So all you and others are doing is trying to play the Wizard of Oz by telling us to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. But anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together should know where the fault for this gigantic mess lies and it starts and ends with senile buffoon in the oval office.
 
Are the people in this thread mad at Trump for telling Mike Johnson and the other Rs to tank the border security bill that ultra conservative Republican Senator James Lankford co-authored because Trump didn't want Biden to get credit for it (even though Dems didn't particularly like it because it was considered very conservative)?

"The Border Act of 2024 will give U.S. Border Patrol agents authorities codified, in law, that we have not had in the past. This will allow us to remove single adults expeditiously and without a lengthy judicial review which historically has required the release of these individuals into the interior of the United States. This alone will drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our borders illegally and evade apprehension. While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo. This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage,” said Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council.

For some reason, even though the border is such a crisis, Johnson and the Rs decided to take a two-week vacation from their very strenuous jobs on Capitol Hill.

Do we have a border crisis or not? Or is it all political theatre? Is it treasonous to order your cronies to torpedo a bill that the U.S. Border Patrol endorsed while simultaneously doing the bidding of our biggest threat who is trying to reorganize the old USSR? Many people would say aiding Putin and refusing to criticize him is treasonous.
 
All I’ve seen from Clarke County is statements is that the immigration status is unknown.

Maybe Rep Mike Collins has some inside info, though.

I’m not trying to defend illegal immigration here. I just took issue with the original citizenship comment being relevant to the situation.
Ok. Why did you take issue with the comment? I’m wondering about your personal attachment to that comment.

I don’t understand how you don’t see the relevance. We know we have a problem at the border southern border. We know this has increased the # of crimes being committed. We know of many crimes being committed by illegals from the south. It’s obvious to the rest of us, not sure why you do t see it, that if this murderer was not allowed into the country, she would still be alive.
 
Yes it’s a stupid comment. Correlation doesn’t equal causation. We don’t know anything about this guy’s motivations and somebody immediately jumps to an anti-immigrant comment and blames the president? That’s absolutely stupid.

And you won’t be deported and set free if you’re convicted of murder, regardless of citizenship status. Deportation would come after release from prison, which is unlikely for a murder 1 conviction.
all that’s true. But if he had not entered the country he would not have been present to murder the girl.
And there is no denying that the current open border policy of our administration has made it very easy for these people to get in.

It’s similar to to policies that allowed of the mariel boatlift from Cuba, where castro literally opened the prisons and se t his criminals to miami.
 
Let me clear this up for you.

I’ve had a conversation with the actual father this evening who’s in Athens gathering his dead daughter’s belongings. Didn’t know what to say to that man other than my family will be fervently praying for his family.

He’s been told by the police that the man arrested is indeed an illegal immigrant.
Orangebandit, from one TI old timer to another, you are a good man. If you see him again, please let him know that you’ve got a wide community of folks praying for his family.
 
Again, I’m not defending any acceptance or handling of illegal immigration. This is a terrible tragedy for the family that is hard to imagine.

I just took exception that being a non-US citizen (from the original post in this thread) is some sort of political “problem”. There are millions of non-US citizens here legally.
I see what you are saying.

But, you are bad in understanding what people mean by their comments.

The overwhelming issue has not been people that are legally here, but those who continue to pour into our southern border illegally.
 
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Are the people in this thread mad at Trump for telling Mike Johnson and the other Rs to tank the border security bill that ultra conservative Republican Senator James Lankford co-authored because Trump didn't want Biden to get credit for it (even though Dems didn't particularly like it because it was considered very conservative)?

"The Border Act of 2024 will give U.S. Border Patrol agents authorities codified, in law, that we have not had in the past. This will allow us to remove single adults expeditiously and without a lengthy judicial review which historically has required the release of these individuals into the interior of the United States. This alone will drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our borders illegally and evade apprehension. While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo. This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage,” said Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council.

For some reason, even though the border is such a crisis, Johnson and the Rs decided to take a two-week vacation from their very strenuous jobs on Capitol Hill.

Do we have a border crisis or not? Or is it all political theatre? Is it treasonous to order your cronies to torpedo a bill that the U.S. Border Patrol endorsed while simultaneously doing the bidding of our biggest threat who is trying to reorganize the old USSR? Many people would say aiding Putin and refusing to criticize him is treasonous.

Existing law provides everything needed to deal with this problem. All that is required is the will to do it. We don't need more legislation and funding. Don't be fooled by what Oz is telling you.
 
Stopping immigration was never mentioned. There is a process. Keeping people out of this country who are not legally supposed to be here is common sense.
The liberals on this board miss the point. If these illegals were not being let in this country by the millions, we would have that many fewer assaults, murders, rapes, etc; we would probably not have the child trafficking problem we have; nor the fentanyl crisis to the extent we have. We definitely would not have illegals assaulting police officers in NYC and then being put out on the streets after going to court.
And some dumb ass Biden supporter will say that he is not responsible for the immigration issue we have. He had the power to open up the border and he has the power to shut it down and stop the madness he created with reversing all of the stay in Mexico policies.
WAKE UP PEOPLE! THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!!
 
What in the hell does this have to do with Trump? What kind of jack ass makes that comment when a daughter / girl gets murdered. I have three daughters and can’t imagine how that family feels.
You should apologize!!
Who should I make the apology out to?
 
I see what you are saying.

But, you are bad in understanding what people mean by their comments.

The overwhelming issue has not been people that are legally here, but those who continue to pour into our southern border illegally.

clarifying what the OP meant would have been a better strategy for me.

Edit to add that I’m a child of (legal) immigrants, so the distinction is important to me. It might not have been what the OP meant, but I interpreted the OPs comment as lumping all immigrants into a bucket.
 
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When you're too chickenshi_ just put
Blah blah blah phobe.
Blah blah blah blah racist
It is more like when they are too stupid to form a rational thought, or they don't have a leg to stand on in the argument.

In this case I pretty sure it is both with that guy.
 
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Are the people in this thread mad at Trump for telling Mike Johnson and the other Rs to tank the border security bill that ultra conservative Republican Senator James Lankford co-authored because Trump didn't want Biden to get credit for it (even though Dems didn't particularly like it because it was considered very conservative)?

"The Border Act of 2024 will give U.S. Border Patrol agents authorities codified, in law, that we have not had in the past. This will allow us to remove single adults expeditiously and without a lengthy judicial review which historically has required the release of these individuals into the interior of the United States. This alone will drop illegal border crossings nationwide and will allow our agents to get back to detecting and apprehending those who want to cross our borders illegally and evade apprehension. While not perfect, the Border Act of 2024 is a step in the right direction and is far better than the current status quo. This is why the National Border Patrol Council endorses this bill and hopes for its quick passage,” said Brandon Judd, President of the National Border Patrol Council.

For some reason, even though the border is such a crisis, Johnson and the Rs decided to take a two-week vacation from their very strenuous jobs on Capitol Hill.

Do we have a border crisis or not? Or is it all political theatre? Is it treasonous to order your cronies to torpedo a bill that the U.S. Border Patrol endorsed while simultaneously doing the bidding of our biggest threat who is trying to reorganize the old USSR? Many people would say aiding Putin and refusing to criticize him is treasonous.
You idiots do realize there are laws that exist, currently? Right? We don’t need a bill to codify a 5,000/day limit. We need to enforce the current laws and close the border. It’s not hard to grasp.
 
***Saturday am edit. I’m no big fan of either FPOTUS Trump or POTUS Biden. I can’t believe they are the best that we can do.

I do believe in the Constitution of the United States of America, and our duty to protect our country, it’s borders and our citizens.
1. They aren’t the best we can do. Not even close. It’s what the RNC/DNC allow.
2. It’s about winning a pathetic brand of Dem/Pub.
3. The older they are, the more reckless and unchecked they can perform.

I can add a million more reasons. I keep hearing that having independent thought that I’m the problem. Yet, go through history and see every leader worth a damn starting with Washington has told the populace to beware the 2 party system.

Well SDTIGER9 it’s all that we have. GFY to anyone that says that. We have the US CONSTITUTION. The 2 mega political corporations have hijacked it. They make it their punching bag. And from the misinformed, uneducated to the brightest, latch onto whatever teat that satisfies their pathetic cheering section.

They aren’t the best what we can produce. Americans need to put down the Coke or Pepsi and realize it’s time to vote for “Bubly”. Put the crack tasting high fructose corn syrup down and respect your country.
 
Only 3 days ago Dr Phil/Rogan delivers

And if you listen to Phil, “it’s on everyone’s mind all the time”.

THATS EXACTLY what the DNC or RNC want in your life. That EVERY ELECTION is to SAVE DEMOCRACY. That they are the solution to your problems by being less worse than the other clown show.

I mean, JFC and FU to Congress and Biden.
- we are a sovereign state
- we have laws
- enforce the laws

But, no….. we need to go and try to steal more money from the US citizens.

(I wake up every day and floored how people support either of these groups where they OUTWARDLY try to abuse you mentally, financially and physically.)
 
all that’s true. But if he had not entered the country he would not have been present to murder the girl.
And there is no denying that the current open border policy of our administration has made it very easy for these people to get in.

It’s similar to to policies that allowed of the mariel boatlift from Cuba, where castro literally opened the prisons and se t his criminals to miami.
Sure, and I’m not defending the Biden administration. They’ve done a really, really shitty job with immigration. Trump wasn’t much better, frankly. The whole building a wall and making Mexico pay for it was a sham and anyone with two eyes could see that. On the flip side, simply allowing everyone person coming to the border into the country like it has been is outrageous.

Sadly, both parties have played politics over this issue for decades and never presented any serious solutions. And the American people keep voting for the same clowns expecting a new circus to show up.
 
Sure, and I’m not defending the Biden administration. They’ve done a really, really shitty job with immigration. Trump wasn’t much better, frankly. The whole building a wall and making Mexico pay for it was a sham and anyone with two eyes could see that. On the flip side, simply allowing everyone person coming to the border into the country like it has been is outrageous.

Sadly, both parties have played politics over this issue for decades and never presented any serious solutions. And the American people keep voting for the same clowns expecting a new circus to show up.
100%

And what’s WORSE? Those like myself standing up against both and demanding better and the clown show voters telling me I’m wasting my vote.

Vomit tasting vanilla
Shit tasting chocolate

And I don’t want either? And who has the problem? You can have a passive voting evolution or a real terrible revolution.
What do you want?

GROW A FVCKIN PAIR and change the outcome.
 
I wish more people understood history. The NAZI party were socialists and pretty much the opposite in political ideology from the conservative right wing here.
that's interesting. All my history professors at Clemson, as well as the entire field of credible historians in all of academia, would disagree with one or two of your ideas.

Where did you get your History degree?
 
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And execute.

Horrible. Biden with more blood on his hands. He should be tried for treason.
Until it's your blood or the blood of those you love it does not matter to the people who are creating the chaos.

Let violence land upon their families and them and the left liberal Democrats will change their songs.

The Black Folk in the Cities are now crying for relief from the equity treatment of illegal aliens and immigrants destroying America. Blacks in an epidemic of killing blacks because of some bad policing. Instead of working to make policing better the Democratic Demons go about use hate, fear mongering, division and racism to destroy civilized society encouraging violence .

I don't favor violence in any form except self-defense, however I make exceptions for those that bring violence to my doorstep and encourage those that will do the violence do it to those that support it through the lunacy now in the White House named Joe Biden.

Sad but true that people who do evil are more protected from consequences now than the doers of good.
 
A young girl got murdered , you really need to **** off
My grown daughter was at UGA in Athens Thursday when they found the body. She works with UGA remotely and was on meetings and that's all they talked about instead and believe me the murder is really shaking up people against the Democratic Party regarding Border Security in that area of Georgia

I say that because Athens is leaning LIBERAL area of GA but this is an example of things that will swing votes to the Republicans.

I pray every day figure out how the Hell to make the world better and stop muffing all the F Ups the Democraps give U. you dimwit Republicans
 
Sure, and I’m not defending the Biden administration. They’ve done a really, really shitty job with immigration. Trump wasn’t much better, frankly. The whole building a wall and making Mexico pay for it was a sham and anyone with two eyes could see that. On the flip side, simply allowing everyone person coming to the border into the country like it has been is outrageous.

Sadly, both parties have played politics over this issue for decades and never presented any serious solutions. And the American people keep voting for the same clowns expecting a new circus to show up.
I agree that both parties play politics with it. And yet, there is no denying that the previous administrations policies had the flow of illegals at its lowest point in decades.
If you are looking at miles-of-wall built as the measure, abject failure. But if you are looking at efficacy of policy, smashing success.

And as for mexico paying for it, if i’m. it mistaken — and well could be — didn’t trump put tariffs on a lot of mexican imports that raised capital that on analysis might have made the cost of the wall a wash?
 
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