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New republican lies in advance of the midterms.

No. Just look at PA, IL and NY. A very specific area (Philly, Chicago and NYC) dictates the politics of the entire state. People who live very different lives, have different values and want different leadership being controlled by voters in a single metro.

This is a glimpse into what would happen nationally without the electoral college. People living a wonderful life in Mt. Pleasant, SC being subjected to high federal taxes, government overreach, etc. No thank you.

Our country's model of government wasn't established to allow for mob rule (simple majority). That's how you get people voting to just take money from producers and reallocate it to themselves (this already happens by losers in the D base). We need a shield against this sort of thing. The electoral college and equal state representation in the Senate protect us from mob rule.

It's all a moot point anyways. I think you need a constitutional amendment ratified by 3/4 of the states to change it. That's never happening, so the discussion isn't anything more than pointless whining.

but if we are a center right country, then mob rule would be in your favor. Or are you admitting that is bullshit?
 
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but if we are a center right country, then mob rule would be in your favor. Or are you admitting that is bullshit?
This is why we live in a republic not a democracy. Democracy is just mob rule. Easy to oppress the minority groups. Even if we are the majority I wont support mob rule.
 
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I am OK with the more lies the better

Joe Biden is a genius and loves America

Joe zBiden is not a criminal and has committed crimes of Sedition worse than Arron Burr

Joe Biden is not Satanic

Am I doing good yet LOL
 
but if we are a center right country, then mob rule would be in your favor. Or are you admitting that is bullshit?

Talk about gaslighting and projecting

Riots and hate speech, hate mongering, terrorizing and creating fear and wearing out vlaims of systemic racism are well honed tatics of the left an Democrats

Don’t give the right credit for what the left has a patent on
 
but if we are a center right country, then mob rule would be in your favor. Or are you admitting that is bullshit?

Do you think that this polling by Gallup is bullshit?

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Do you think that this polling by Gallup is bullshit?

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Yes, it is bullshit. Why should I look at a gallup poll when I can just look at actual election results?

Biden got 7MM more votes than trump.
Hilary got 3MM more votes than trump.
Obama got 5mm more votes than romney, and 9MM more than McCain

I could keep going. If people in their 20s voted as aggressively as non college educated white people, then the republicans would never win another election.

We are, if anything, a center left country.
 
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Yes, it is bullshit. Why should I look at a gallup poll when I can just look at actual election results?

Biden got 7MM more votes than trump.
Hilary got 3MM more votes than trump.
Obama got 5mm more votes than romney, and 9MM more than McCain

I could keep going. If people in their 20s voted as aggressively as non college educated white people, then the republicans would never win another election.

We are, if anything, a center left country.
Dems prepping their anus for Red Wave Tuesday

 
Yes, it is bullshit. Why should I look at a gallup poll when I can just look at actual election results?

Biden got 7MM more votes than trump.
Hilary got 3MM more votes than trump.
Obama got 5mm more votes than romney, and 9MM more than McCain

I could keep going. If people in their 20s voted as aggressively as non college educated white people, then the republicans would never win another election.

We are, if anything, a center left country.

Your vote totals ignore candidate quality. Obama was very popular and Trump was deeply flawed. Anti-Trump sentiment drove the gap in 2020, not support for liberalism or Biden.

We also have to overcome the free OPM you guys distribute to all the poors. 50% of poors are dem vs. 27% leaning republican.

Once you remove the people who view the government as a source of income, it becomes way more clear.

Income distributionRepublican/lean Rep.No leanDemocrat/lean Dem.
Less than $30,00027%23%50%
$30,000-$49,99939%16%46%
$50,000-$99,99945%13%43%
$100,000 or more47%10%44%
 
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Your vote totals ignore candidate quality. Obama was very popular and Trump was deeply flawed. Anti-Trump sentiment drove the gap in 2020, not support for liberalism or Biden.

We also have to overcome the free OPM you guys distribute to all the poors. 50% of poors are dem vs. 27% leaning republican.

Once you remove the people who view the government as a source of income, it becomes way more clear.

Income distributionRepublican/lean Rep.No leanDemocrat/lean Dem.
Less than $30,00027%23%50%
$30,000-$49,99939%16%46%
$50,000-$99,99945%13%43%
$100,000 or more47%10%44%

What is OPM?

Those people earning less than $30K might also just be young. I didn't earn $100K+ until my late 20s.
 
What is OPM?

Those people earning less than $30K might also just be young. I didn't earn $100K+ until my late 20s.

Other people's money. As addicting as opium.

I'd also add that conservative does not necessarily equal Republican. I think the GOP is very flawed. I don't agree with numerous policy positions.

I think you can see it on this board. There is a solid group of Biden voters who seem to support limited government, fiscal responsibility, etc. WapPride described himself similarly the other day. Yoshi, hopeful, etc seem to be the same.

I think most of the country falls into this bucket. The GOP has done a shitty job of policy positioning to ensure it grabs all of them. It leaves room for people worried about climate change, people worried about abortion or people turned off by Trump/MAGA/conspiracies to vote against their foundational beliefs in the role of government.
 
So are you with me on abolishing the electoral college? We are a center right country, so that should work out for you right?
Perhaps as soon as your get-out-the-vote campaign gets out of the inner cities and reaches rural America in near similar proportions.

But seriously, the electoral college was a device used by the Founding Fathers to prevent mob rule, among other things (these other things being to ensure we have an informed electorate where the chief magistrate is concerned).

I'd just assume we go back to more fully implementing the electoral college than to completely surrender to the failings of pure democracy.
 
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Something to help @nytigerfan and @dpic73 from one of their own.

Not sure how it helps me as I agree that we should listen to her valid concerns, especially considering she lives there. I think the DAs for LA and San Fran suck bad. I believe the San Fran DA was voted out and the one in LA is a disgrace and should be voted out as well. Being a Democrat does not mean I don't care about crime. Biden agrees and that's why he is pushing to FUND the police.
 
Explain "their". The elections in Arizona are largely run by Republicans and if voting machines are down it affects voters in both parties. What is the scheme?
You simple minded shill. Your still stuck thinking in a 2D way. Hobbs is in charge out there and she is an establishment **** that pretends to be a democrat.
 
You simple minded shill. Your still stuck thinking in a 2D way. Hobbs is in charge out there and she is an establishment **** that pretends to be a democrat.
You single-celled shill. Republican Bill Gates is the Chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and Republican Stephen Richer is the County Recorder. Only a dumbass Trump hemorrhoid would call a minor glitch with tabulators a scheme to steal an election. You are the problem!

And for the 100th time, it's "you're". Why can't you take 5 minutes to read the rules for when to use that word so you can apply it correctly? If it's really that hard for you, do you really think we should listen to your opinion?
 
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You single-celled shill. Republican Bill Gates is the Chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and Republican Stephen Richer is the County Recorder. Only a dumbass Trump hemorrhoid would call a minor glitch with tabulators a scheme to steal an election. You are the problem!

And for the 100th time, it's "you're. Why can't you take 5 minutes to read the rules for when to use that word so you can apply it correctly? If it's really that hard for you, do you really think we should listen to your opinion?
Bad day?
 
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Not at all, I'm realistic about what to expect. What makes it a bad day for America is conspiracy theorists like yourself that call any voting issue, no matter how minor, an attempt to steal the election. I'll accept the results no matter what they are. Will you?
 
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Not at all, I'm realistic about what to expect. What makes it a bad day for America is conspiracy theorists like yourself that call any voting issue, no matter how minor, an attempt to steal the election. I'll accept the results no matter what they are. Will you?
Hardcore level 10, your table is now available….
 
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@WapPride Continuing from my previous post...

As I said, 2022 data is a bit difficult to flesh out, but the best I can tell from the eia.gov site I linked to in the previous post, our net imports look to only be up 10%, and correspondingly our net crude oil production is likewise only down about 10% from the 13 million barrels per day (from an all-time high March 6th, shortly after which oil prices negative).

Now, after spending some time to tighten up the data and reign in some (of my own) hyperbole, the point remains that there is still space on the global market for more crude oil capacity and still more production capability in the US to rise to meet it. Back when we were producing 13 million barrels per day it was said that we still had the production potential to further eclipse even that number.

Of course, as you also correctly pointed out it about more than production, it got to be shipped, refined and shipped yet again--all of which have been squeezed by combinations of political pressures, war and the pandemic. The war and pandemic we can/could do little about.

But the political pressure...

Political pressure is nothing more than self-induced suffering and a missed opportunity for the US to rise to the occasion.

Political pressure has created a hostile lending environment for oil companies and is actively frustrating access to capital.

Political pressure stymies and halts improved oil distribution infrastructure (hello again Keystone).

Political pressure is the reason we have not improved our oil refining capability.
Well, I forgot to account for the 180 million barrels of oil Biden released from the strategic reserves this year... that 180 million barrels would account for a staggering 4% if our average daily out put stands at ~11.7 million barrels per day
 
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You single-celled shill. Republican Bill Gates is the Chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and Republican Stephen Richer is the County Recorder. Only a dumbass Trump hemorrhoid would call a minor glitch with tabulators a scheme to steal an election. You are the problem!

And for the 100th time, it's "you're". Why can't you take 5 minutes to read the rules for when to use that word so you can apply it correctly? If it's really that hard for you, do you really think we should listen to your opinion?
Hobbs is the SOS and again you think in a 2D way if you think it matters if a D or R is beside their name...
 
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